• Ken Smelko
    Posted at 09:22h, 15 February

    Very good statement. I try to stay grounded through all of the opinions of bible scholars and the exegesis of eschatologists through the words of Jesus Christ. If all things were made through him and he is literally the Word of God, then he is the “holy ghost writer” who dictated to the writers of the the entire bible. This is why the Olivet discourse is so powerful. Jesus himself verbally outlined the 70th week of Daniel to his followers, and later expanded on it in the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John at Patmos. The most significant clue/warning that He gives in the discourse is “when you see the Abomination the makes desolate, spoken of by Daniel the prophet … This is the most vivid sign that we are to look for, but the end is not yet. Speculation of blood moons, and the great sign of the woman, eclipses, who’s the AC etc is there to confuse and confound the elect. The problem for people is that when the Abomination is set up, the realization will set in that the AC has taken over the world and the Great Tribulation has begun. Fear, panic, and lawlessness and war -will unfold and the persecution of Jews and christians will begin. People don’t want to accept it, even though Jesus Christ has said it. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

  • Kevin Bartel
    Posted at 09:57h, 15 February

    September 23, 2017 is not going to be any revelatory date. Although the uniqueness of the events in the stars with the planets and virgo during this time is what’s important. that exact date is irrelevant. it’s powerful that it’s happening in these times. Now what IS interesting is the 10 Jubilee prophecy of Rabbi Judah ben Samuel, which prophesied Donald Trump exactly 10 jubilee’s from his date. Donald trump was born June 14 1946, first day as president was exactly 70 years 7 months and 7 days on Jan 21 2017. a man for Israel. Jerusalem Post is calling him a modern day Cyrus. This is the jewish year 777. President Donald Trump and vice president Mike Pence when put together even sound like trumpets (trump+pence).

    What’s happening is we are entering into the age of Aquarius, this sign in the heavens is signifying of birth pangs during this switching of the procession of the equinox. Ultimately the earth will roll out of its place and we will get new heavens, meaning new constellations. And all will be fulfilled.
    But the temple has to come and everything prior to this.

  • Taryn
    Posted at 12:51h, 15 February

    My husband and I want in on the bet on your side. We’ll raise it to a million. And we totally don’t have it in the bank.

  • Joel
    Posted at 14:56h, 15 February


  • Eric Harris
    Posted at 17:16h, 15 February

    Hi Joel, you mention that the true alignment of the stars to fulfill this sign happened in the first century. What was different about the alignment then as opposed to now?

  • Joel
    Posted at 17:22h, 15 February

    Hi Eric,

    Briefly, there is much that was unique that year. First and foremost of course was the fact that the King was born within the window that was defined by the prophets. I highly encourage you to get a copy of Dr. Heiser’s new book, Reversing Hermon. He has a whole chapter that addresses this topic—the many signs that all aligned that year. It was much more than just the stars. Rather it was a combination of biblical prophecies and the celestial alignment. Likewise, the Star of Bethlehem is worth watching as well. Also, to verify the things I state in the video regarding Jupiter, you can easily download Stellarium. Its relatively easy to figure out. While it is certainly possible that something could happen on one of the twelve year regular occurrences, it is important to make it clear that this year is not, as is falsely claimed, a one in every 7000 event. I hope this helps.


  • David Williams
    Posted at 19:16h, 15 February

    Hello Joel,
    Another brilliant presentation on the Woman.
    I am amazed just how much attention and reaction this “Star Constellation” has caused.
    It is a prime example at how easy people can be led away from the Word of God and get caught up in fleshly teachings, the exact thing that the Word of God warns us not to do.
    If The Woman in Rev 12:1 is a Constellation in the Heaven then the same has to be applied to the Red Dragon that is seen in the Heaven in Rev 12:3 and again to the 7 Angels seen in Heaven in Rev 15:1.

    Also if the Woman and the Red Dragon are Star Constellations then they would have to also fulfil what they do as follows.
    The Woman Constellation would also have to do the following:
    Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
    Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
    Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
    Do we see any of the above verses in the Constellation?
    No we don’t.
    Also it is strange that a Star Constellation would go into a desert and God feeds the Star Constellation.

    The Red Dragon Constellation would also have to do the following:
    Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
    Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
    Do we see any of the above verses in the Constellation?
    No we don’t?

    If they are all Constellations then we also have Gabriel fighting against Constellations
    Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
    Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
    Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
    Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

    It is wise for us to believe the Word of God and not the fables of men.

    God Bless you Joel for standing on the Simple Truth in Scripture.

  • rt elms
    Posted at 19:48h, 15 February


    My personal policy on the matter of setting dates for end time events is – I can’t know the unknowable.
    “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” (Mark 13:32) NASB
    However, we can read the signs of the times and your ministry helps me in bringing all the noise into focus. Thanks again!


  • Debbie Malcolm
    Posted at 11:08h, 16 February

    Hi Joel
    Appreciate your answer regarding my question on Daniel,
    One other question if I may
    Couple months ago you blocked me from Twitter @debimalcolm I Apologize if I offended you in any way wasn’t my intention
    I enjoy following you on twitter, I am not on Facebook. Anyway I enjoy the interaction and knowledge between you & your friends for learning and meeting new believers
    I would appreciate you unblocking me if at all possible 😇 Peace and keep up the good work!!
    Just an old soul / female Listening to God trying to wake me up for much work is needed And NO I am not a stalker
    I know you’ve had people trolling you


  • Philip Arpin
    Posted at 18:15h, 16 February

    Greetings in CHRIST, Joel:
    Philip John Arpin ThD

    As you say, many mistakes in past: certain.
    We as teachers are often critiqued. It is good that such analysis persists.

    Should we then cease to interpret prophecies because of a possible negative critique?
    As in the past with error on “caught-up” interpretations this too may be too conjectural.

    Should we cease therein to study and convey our observation? YHVH also created the heavens must be remembered?
    Time will tell again whether this prophetic indicator is being properly interpeted. Is it an indicator of “the blessed hope”?

    Much, much, much analysis is further indicated, needed, and this is a good thing, especially in light of some purely
    astronomical observations as to what may appear to be a red dwarf with accompanying planets in sol’s shpere perhaps
    indicative of “the great red dragon”.

    These are exciting times.

    In CHRISt,

  • Howard
    Posted at 10:53h, 17 February

    For sure the rapture is not going to happen on Sep 23 this year, or this year at all:
    “Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the [a]coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you not be quickly shaken from your [b]composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a [c]message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the [d]apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above [e]every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.”

    Some are saying that this ‘sign’ will mark the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel (with the first resurrection-rapture 3 1/2 years later). Of course, this is still speculation, with or without a ‘sign’. All of this, though, is drawing the attention of believers to waken up to the times and seasons in which we live, and to get back to the Word of God in the whole of the Bible. .

  • Kevin Charles
    Posted at 13:14h, 17 February

    I had a question about the Matthew 24 prophecy and didn’t know how to ask on your site, i saw this is the most recent video so I thought I’d ask here.

    The reference to Noah and the rapture in Matthew 24:37-43 speaks of the people being 2 in the field and one will be taken, the other will stay, etc. It uses Noah and the ark as a model of reference to this rapture, my question is has anyone ever considered that we do NOT want to be taken? The people taken from the earth during the flood were the worldly sinners. Noah stayed on the earth and was saved THROUGH the tribulation. Likewise Daniel and the lions den, likewise Daniel’s friends in the fiery furnace, etc. There is more evidence of a saving THROUGH the tribulation. But my question is specifically for Matthew 24. When Christ comes do we want to be here “waiting on the Lord?” or do we wanna be “taken”?

    I’m sure the answer to this question is extremely long regarding the tribulation, but can you keep your answer brief specific to the Matthew prophecy and maybe tell me which person we want to be in matthew 24:40.

  • Joel
    Posted at 15:55h, 17 February

    HI Kevin,

    Yes, of course, the one taken is the one taken in judgment.


  • Kevin Charles
    Posted at 17:09h, 17 February

    So that being said do we want to be raptured or kept here on earth through the tribulation?

    The answer to me used to be obvious, the raptured group get to escape the tribulation, but that verse in Matthew 24:40 is almost like saying we have it backwards.

  • Joel
    Posted at 17:35h, 17 February

    Hi Bradley,

    I had a very long and very nice conversation with Scottie Clark today. I have also corresponded with another gentleman who has also written a book on this and dedicated the last few years to this topic. Rather than continue to debate this subject, I will simply say that we will have to wait and see. I did read your “rebuttal.” Rather than address the various errors you made, I will simply say that after September 23, there will no longer be any debates on this matter. At that time, you may apologize for your very unChrist-like insults.

    Many Blessings,

  • Kevin Charles
    Posted at 22:52h, 17 February

    You know it’s been just over 7 years since I’ve been saved. At the time I enlisted in the military thinking that’s where God wants me. Now I’m about to be hired onto a local fire department thinking this is my service to God,. I watch your videos and I read your stuff and I can’t help but think I want to get involved. but for me the million dollar question is ‘how?’. I’ve prayed on the matter often enough and I believe the fire dept IS the best I can do, but I want more.
    You spoke at a church in one of your videos and mentioned very briefly about the underground church in Iran. I don’t want to be just some Christian who has Christ here in my living room, I want to get involved some how some way. Now I help anyone that comes in my path whenever I see someone. I do what I can,
    Is there any suggestions you would recommend to sort of get ‘my skin in the game’ in a more tangible way? I really want to involve myself over seas because that’s where I think we’re needed. The only thing that came to mind was firefighters without borders. Now I’m hopeful (god willing) trump builds the third temple. I’d be on the first plane out to help. But is there any web sites or movements I can get involved with? And I don’t mean just donating some cash on a site. I want to physically do something.

    Thanks a bunch

  • linda keyes
    Posted at 05:44h, 18 February

    It’s such a shame Joel, people seem to be drawn to extra biblical theories as though they’re new revelation from God.

    Jesus spoke very clearly in Mathew 24. Speaking to his followers he said the celestial signs to look for were at the end of the tribulation.

    I remember when it occurred to me that the angels gathering the saints in v31 was indeed the rapture and not the collecting of the Jews as I’d been taught, because when the Jews are bought home at the end of the age, the angels won’t be bringing them. Isa 66:20 says they will come back on horseback, in chariots, on mules and swift beasts to his holy mountain. God will even dry up the tongue of the Egyptian sea so they can cross over. Isa 11:15.

    As you say Joel these things do great harm, saints become discouraged, while the world mocks.

    If we just keep to the simplicity of what Jesus says, we can then just get on with the real job at hand.

  • Joel
    Posted at 07:46h, 18 February

    Hi Kevin,

    You can always volunteer for various ministries doing work among the refugees throughout Jordan, Lebanon, and Iraq. Of course, it would have to be shorter term with your job, but it may meet that desire you have a bit more. Of course, one need not go overseas to get involved in reaching out to refugees here in the states, and witnessing to the firefighters and all you come into contact with. You can check with FAI, one of my partner ministries, as well as Antecessor, and several other great ministries doing work on the front lines.


  • Kevin Charles
    Posted at 09:38h, 18 February

    Thanks Joel I’ll definitely look at Antecessor and FAI.

    Reading your response here led me on a google search and I came across an interview done by yourself and Adnan Oktar. The article can be found at http://www.wnd.com/2009/08/106055/

    I’ve seen this interview by you years ago I know it’s old, but I read it and never occurred to me that Gentiles, Jews, AND muslims would want to rebuild the third temple. I originally thought it was just a Jew and Christian thing.

    Clearly the third temple is the missing piece of the puzzle in the end times, however where do you stand on it? For or against it? I’ve talked to a ton of people on it, and I have been shocked at how many Christians are against anything to do with Israel.


  • Joel
    Posted at 09:45h, 18 February

    I’m not in favor of this kind of temple. Jesus will restore a Temple during His coming reign as described in Ezekiel 40-48.

  • Kevin Charles
    Posted at 12:24h, 18 February

    I was under the impression this third temple that’s supposed to be built in the court of the gentiles is the final temple. Mid-tribulation the islamic antichrist (12th imam) is supposed to do what muslims do and convert it to a mosque and all (literal) hell breaks loose.

    I value the heck out of your insight and I’m curious why you think that the temple Jesus restores will be separate from the third temple. That third temple in Ezekiel 40-48 IS the temple I’m talking about. The Temple Institute in Jerusalem is supposed to be building Ezekiels temple.

    Now what I thought was that the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21, and the temple of Christ spoken of in Revelation 21:22 was the temple of our bodies where Christ now dwells.

    My question is how will Christ restore a Temple that’s different to the one that the temple institute wants to build from Ezekiel 40-48

  • Joel
    Posted at 14:34h, 18 February

    The Temple that will be rebuilt will be largely desolated by the Antichrist and destroyed when Jesus returns. The Temple described in great detail by Ezekiel is vastly larger than anything that could fit on the present Temple Mount. This will be there during the 1000 millennium. After this, there is no longer any temple.

  • Kevin Charles
    Posted at 16:35h, 18 February

    See I was under the impression it could fit perfectly in the court of the gentiles, that changes everything.

  • Ryan Donovan
    Posted at 16:54h, 18 February


    as an aside, I am fascinated to see a shift in direction from Israel regarding the strategy of peace. Going from a 2-state solution, to looking to the wider gulf states for a wider peace framework (if you would call it that). Something to watch for I guess considering the ‘covenant of peace’ made between the Islamic Antichrist and Israel in Revelation.

    Bless you and am loving your books!


  • Larry Fontenot
    Posted at 20:48h, 18 February

    Hi Joel, Wonderful program. I have just one observation about Virgo. I am assuming this sight is to be seen with the naked eye at nightime. Nightime being when the Constellations can be observed. If the Moon is at the Virgins feet, then the Sun would be opposite side of Earth. For at no time could anyone observe both the Sun and the Moon at the same time within the small angular space of a Constellation at night with the naked eye. It’s an impossibility. Perhaps the word ‘Sun’ in Scripture is describing some other bright heavenly body unknown to us which is yet to come and obviously would not be included in any astronomy software that we have to date. So it’s a mystery in my view. What do you think about this idea? Thank you Joel for all you do.

  • Joel
    Posted at 23:06h, 18 February

    It cannot be seen as it would be day. Thus these things could be observed through mathematical calculations. But I think the sun here is the sun. This was the alignment when Jesus was born.

  • David Roberts
    Posted at 04:50h, 19 February

    Brother Joel, I have a friend asking about giving to legitimate bible distribution.

    Who would you recommend?


    or another ministry?

  • Joel
    Posted at 05:40h, 19 February

    Those both look great.

  • David Williams
    Posted at 19:39h, 19 February

    Hello Joel, this is a Biblical response to the One Taken and the other left behind that was mentioned on the 17th of February. I believe my comment is needed and will bring much light and truth. Please consider.
    Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be ( taken), and the other left.
    Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be ( taken), and the other left.

    There are varied views on the meaning of the above verses.
    It is Extremely Critical that before we express our views we MUST first of all look at the Greek Word that is used in the New Testament for taken.
    The Greek Word is “paralambano” it is number G3880 in the Strongs Concordance.
    Paralambano means “To Receive”, “to Take Near to Oneself”, “To Receive to Oneself”, “To Take into Ones Possession”, “To Take One as an Associate or Companion”.
    Paralambano is used 50 times in the New Testament, nowhere does it mean to Destroy.

    It is very clearly a word that means relationship, bringing to oneself.
    Here is just one example in the New Testament where that Greek Word is used.
    Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to (take unto thee) Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
    Joseph was Receiving to himself Mary to be his Wife.
    Joseph did not destroy Mary, He actually Received Mary to himself to be his “Companion, His Associate, His Wife”.
    Mat 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and ( took unto him) his wife:

    Let me now place the proper meaning of the word Paralambano into the two Verses in Matthew 24.
    Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be “Received to ones self as an associate, as a Companion”, and the other left.

    Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be “Received to oneself as an Associate, as a Companion”, and the other left.

    Here are some other verses as an example.
    Mat 17:1 And after six days Jesus (taketh) Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
    Mat 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.

    Look at the Beautiful Verses below.

    Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and (receive you unto myself); that where I am, there ye may be also.

    1Co 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye (have received), and wherein ye stand;

    Col 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
    Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

    In all 50 Verses in the New Testament where “Paralambano” is used it is completely consistent, it means to bring to ones side, to be a companion, to Receive.
    It DOES NOT mean to destroy.

    Jesus is Coming and he will Receive us to Himself, He will Gather us all together to Himself.

    I am actually just about finished doing a Blog on the Above.

  • Joel
    Posted at 20:07h, 19 February


    With all due respect, this is not the meaning of the passage. First, it should be noted that other verses which you selectively did not cite in the New Testament use the word in a very negative sense:

    Then goeth he, and (TAKETH) with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation. Matthew 12:45

    Then the soldiers of the governor (TOOK) Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers. Matthew 27:27

    Worse yet, you didn’t quote the previous verse which establishes the context:

    “For as in those days before the flood THEY were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and THEY did not understand until THE FLOOD came and TOOK THEM all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Then there will be two men in the field; one will be TAKEN and one will be left. Matthew 24:39

    The meaning is clear. In Noah’s day, those “taken” were taken away by the flood in judgment. The one “left” is the one who remained alive and thus was saved. It’s very clear.


  • David Williams
    Posted at 22:53h, 19 February

    Hello Joel,
    Thanks for your response.
    I did not mean to come across in a manner where I ignored any verses on purpose, because there were 50 verses I did not want to bring up all.the verses in the comment. I was just showing that the word does not mean to destroy but means to bring along ones side. I was presenting a positive side rather than just focusing on the Judgement. The verses you showed are correct and even though being negative the word still shows that there is a taking to oneself as in Matthew 12:45 and 27:27.
    God can draw one to his side and Satan also can draw one to his side.
    I am aware of Matthew 24:39 and it clearly shows that. Noah and his family (received Salvation) entered into the Ark before Judgement came, God delivered his people and closed the door and then Judged the earth.
    On the same Day Lot left Sodom Judgement came. Salvation first then Judgement.
    In the same manner we will be raptured into the Air (Salvation) before Judgement comes on the Earth.
    I was actually confirming Matthew 24:39 in that God Brings Salvation before He brings Judgement.
    Matthew 24:39 clearly shows that Noah and his family were given Salvation first, they literally lifted up anchor in the Ark.
    Then Judgement came, Noah and his family were lifted up above the Judgement.
    I certainly want to be lifted up into the air above the earth in the rapture rather than remain on the earth and receive the Judgement of God.
    Blessed are those in the First Resurrection.
    Sorry if it appeared misleading.

  • Karlea Albrecht
    Posted at 03:19h, 06 March

    Everything does add up. The red dagon =(satan)… dragon = satan red= war Keep in mind the red horse in Rev. is war… the red dragon is satan. Red equals war. The red dragon means the war in the heavens when satan and the fallen angels will be cast down to earth. The seven heads are the seven new planets just discovered or rather uncovered. The dwelling place of these demonic beings which is in the heavenly realms. It says the red dragon will have seven heads and ten horns. If you multiply 10×7 it equals seventy. There were 70 fallen angels that fell with with Lucifer. The dragon drawing a third of the stars to earth is satan and his demons being cast down to earth after the war in heaven. Very hard times will be on the way. For it says that in Ephesians 6:12 For we do not struggle with flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces in the heavenly realms. It further says in
    Ephesians 2:2
    in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience. * note* the sons of disobedience are the fallen angels, or rather Satan’s demons. They will be cast down at this time onto earth. I believe tribulation will begin at this time.


  • Karlea Albrecht
    Posted at 03:42h, 06 March

    I feel Yeshua haMashiach will return around 2027.

  • James Robert Holben
    Posted at 23:33h, 22 March

    Joel, this is a cut and paste from my facebook page. It pertains to the Sept 23rd. Sign. ”

    For some time now I have been contemplating the verse in Matthew 24 wherein it states, “Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” I have asked myself, “What is this sign?” It has to be something that everyone will see and recognise for what it is. Then today, while watching a video concerning astronomy in the Bible, it hit me! You are all familiar with the story of the Magi, their seeking out the one who is born “King of the Jews”, Herod the Great having all the male children in Bethlehem under two years of age murdered, etc. The signs in the heavens that these wise men followed are believed to have been handed down by Daniel and his descendants that stayed in Babylon. These Magi knew what to look for in the heavens and they knew what it meant. John the Revelator saw a vision in heaven that is believed to mimic what those Magi were looking for, and saw. It is clearly described in Revelation 12. “And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it. She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, (Rev 12:1-5)
    If this is not the “sign of the Son of Man”, I don’t know what is! This exact stellar alignment has not happened again since it first heralded the coming of the King, when he was born in Bethlehem. This September, after 2000 years, it will happen again. “Then will appear in heaven THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN!” He’s coming folks, he’s really coming…and I can’t wait….even so Lord Jesus, come. Shalom and Amen and Amen.

  • Joel
    Posted at 15:06h, 23 March


    The sign is that which is mentioned multiple times by the prophets, Jesus and Revelation. The Sun goes black and the moon turns blood red. It is not a non-existent alignment in the stars that happens every 11-12 years. The alignment when Jesus was born was unique and is was comprised of several other issues. It is not happening this year. I also highly encourage you to read Alan Kurschner’s books on the Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church. Very convincing if one will give it a chance.


  • Jessey Lea Watts
    Posted at 16:09h, 03 April

    Thank you Joel, I was very concerned and scared about this date but reading your messages has made me feel better about all of this! Thank you for all the great help!

  • Kristine Ralph
    Posted at 22:08h, 07 April

    Please explain to me when the normal retrograde of Jupiter is 120 days every year, why does it stay in Virgo’s womb for a full nine months? Based on a 30 day month, let’s say, is 270 days (approx) Trying to understand why this sign would not be biblical or prophetic since wandering planets to the Jews are called wandering stars.

  • Joel
    Posted at 04:21h, 08 April

    Jupiter wanders into Virgo every eleven or twelve years. Despite what is being claimed, this year, it does not stay in Virgo’s womb for nine months. It goes into her womb for a couple months, passes out for a couple months and then back in for a few months. The total time if you include the few months where it is just outside her womb is eleven months, not nine.

  • Lou
    Posted at 00:45h, 10 April

    Excellent stuff, Joel. Readers might like to Google “Ready for Rapture Astrology?” on Treena Gisborn’s UK blog “Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing.”

  • Joy Bosworth
    Posted at 21:42h, 18 April

    Why do you use a masons, Jesuit, and pagan symbol with your sight? The square within a square and the egyptian sun disc in the middle? These are also symbols within the Catholic Church. These are things not to follow but yet you publish them openly. Very curious as to your answer. But I am sure you won’t publish this question or the answer.

  • Joel
    Posted at 04:48h, 19 April

    Hi Joy,

    Symbols do not have some inherent meaning or power. Any given symbol has many different meanings. As Paul says, “To the pure all things are pure.” In other words, symbols only have the power that one ascribes to it. While the Magen David star may be a pagan sign to you, to most, it simply symbolizes the current state of Israel. As a lifelong artist, I have a love for the history of art and architecture. When I made my web-site some years ago, I chose an image of a piece of ceramic tile that had an image that represents the Jews, another that represents the Muslim world (the inside of the Dome of a Mosque), and an image of an icon of Jesus. This represents the main people I am called to minister the Gospel to. While you may believe these signs all have some evil power, I believe the Lord is so much bigger and more powerful than Satan. Satan doesn’t own shapes or symbols anymore than Satan owns all goats. Others have asked about the statues behind me. These are from Iran, given to me as a gift by my friends who lead the underground Church there. One is a Sassanid soldier, essentially the ancient Green Berets of Persia, and the other is Cyrus (the Lord’s anointed).

    I pray you will receive what I am about to say as a brother, but I hope that will grow beyond the relative superstitiousness that has caused you to assume the worst about a brother. Not everything is an evil conspiracy.

    May the Lord Bless you,

  • Brad T
    Posted at 17:33h, 20 April

    Hello Joel,
    So I have struggled with a bombardment of what to believe, what to do? I firmly believe in Christ although I do fall short daily. So I come to you as a child with an open mind for you to lead me to some sort of clarification. If you may. For Christ sis say for us to be open minded like a child.
    So, for years I have struggled with doubts of the rapture. My reasoning for this is, as we a chastised by the father from time to time and tempted by Satan and we still fall short to the model that came for us to follow. Now in the sense that Christ endured a great punishment and a punishment that he did not deserve. So, for us to be concrete and unshaken in our gratitude what if we are made to endure the tribulation but the rapture is in fact a receiving of Christ maybe the receiving is the ability to refuse the mark no matter what we see or is done to us. For surety of where you are going once you perish is in fact a great gift. Also we are given the number 144,000 and Christ saying those that endure th unto the end are surely blessed. I believe is how the scripture goes. I could be wrong. The thing is that my faith that Christ is real is unshakeable but my position in the afterlife for some reason I have trouble with. I suppose I may have a polluted mind through all of the years of religion courses and having non religious professors actually atheist professors that brought into light the quote en quote banned books of the Bible. Doubt is a powerful agent and it says Satan will use this to deceive. I have also researched the strange signs in the sky as of recent and the Incoming solar system and although the evidence is compelling if those heavenly bodies were close enough for them to be as large as the “orbs” they highlight our planet would be in grave distress. So sometimes I see what they have covered up and wondered why the one swath of a 360 degree sky in google covers and removes the coordinates that in 2007 were published via a German individual. Just so much information overload I am in need of clarity and pray you can help sir.
    I thank you in advance.

  • mark wesley
    Posted at 09:10h, 21 April

    What should you do? Be prepared for whatever comes. You don’t have to worry about the time or date.

    Rev. 20:7 “And behold, I am coming quickly. [a]Blessed (happy, prosperous, to be admired) is the one who heeds and takes to heart and remembers the words of the prophecy [that is, the predictions, consolations, and warnings] contained in this book (scroll).”

  • mark wesley
    Posted at 09:42h, 21 April

    Thank you for your video. Lots of great information.

    If you pointed to the signs in the sky that pointed to the birth of Jesus Christ, you would have been told you were wrong, because nothing happened. Nothing that you could see pointed to the King of Kings being conceived or born. But as we know this was in fact true. Once again I don’t know what the signs on September 23, 2017, and it does not matter. We all should be prepared every day.
    You focus on “scholars” and commentaries to tell you if something is true or not true. Having produced hundreds of textbooks for major publishers, I would not base what I think of “scholars,” books or commentaries. I would read what they say, but I would not base my faith on it.

  • Joel
    Posted at 10:17h, 21 April


    I do not base my faith on what Christian scholars say. My point in citing authorities on this matter is to show that much of the pop ideas found on Youtube concerning this matter are not rooted in a careful or thorough examination of the topic. Humility says we should consider the words of those who have dedicated their lives to some particular topic. Of course they can be wrong, but studying what other men and women have concluded on various matters is not a bad starting point as we form our own opinions.

  • Rachel Odu
    Posted at 22:51h, 21 April

    Dear Brad,

    I think some people have a hard time believing in a pretrib rapture because they feel it’s too good to be true or we don’t deserve it and I agree. But I also believe our God is overflowing with mercy and love and while we may deserve to go through the tribulation I don’t believe we will. This fall something is going to happen. Not only is this celestial alignment happening on the Feast of Trumpets, but if you look at St Malachys prophecy and the Prophecy of 10 Jubilees they all point to “now”! Jesus said there will be an hour of trial, a testing, and to pray that we may be counted worthy to escape. So that is exactly what I do. Your not the only one feeling an information overload. There is a lot unfolding happening. As far as your position in the afterlife, dont ever forget John 3:16. Pre, mid, post trib, Sept 23 or some other day, all you have to do is believe and accept!

  • Billy joe bob
    Posted at 14:40h, 22 April

    AMEN,,,Joel,,,,, I have been combating this and other false doctrine for sometime now,,,, it’s always ,,,, something is going to happen,,,,here is the key to all scripture and how to interpret it,,,,,2Peter v1:20,,and v21,,,also 2Peter 3 v14 to 18,,,,the Holy Spirit gave us the scripture,,,,He knows the interpretation and unless He gives us the reamah revilation people will do what is written in the aforementioned scriptures ,,,,WELL DONE,,,

  • Jay Dunwoody
    Posted at 10:34h, 25 April

    I am just testing if anyone can comment on here?

  • Stephan
    Posted at 19:43h, 01 May

    Blood moon tetrads 2014-2015,, Bethleem star in 2015, Virgo with a crown in 2017, what’s next?.
    Are we in a hunt to find Bible signs in the sky? Or are we too wise to recognize them?

    Matthew 13
    35 So was fulfilled what was spoken through the prophet: “I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter things hidden since the creation of the world.”

    Matthew 11
    25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. 

    Matthew 24
    37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 
    38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 
    39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 

  • Howard
    Posted at 17:05h, 03 May


    I saw you on YouTube, talking about the Revelation 12 sign and 9/23/2017. Thanks for your work.

    Disregarding the whole “Jupiter-in-the-womb-for-9-months” angle, can you tell me if your research shows the simultaneous alignment of Leo, the 3 planets, Virgo, Jupiter, etc in other years? I came across a spreadsheet someone made that purports to show that this particular simultaneous alignment is indeed rare.

    Apologies if someone has already asked this. I didn’t read this entire thread.



  • Joel
    Posted at 18:37h, 03 May


    Whether to is rare or not is largely irrelevant. Leo plus three planets is not what is intended to represent the crown. The crown is always there as represented by the 11 prominent stars in Coma Berenices. As I mention in the video, its most prominent star is actually called the Diadem, or Crown. Those trying to claim Leo the Lion suddenly stops being Leo and becomes a crown this September are simply trying to create a “great Sign” where none exists. The result will be another frenzy of expectation this fall, followed by another round of great disappointment. I wish I could say otherwise.


  • Jeanette Whelchel
    Posted at 07:27h, 04 May

    Kudos to you Joel! The one fish swimming upstream against the current! I so appreciate the calm and logic manner in which you presented this rebuttal. I have appreciated your grounded teaching in the past and will certainly continue to follow your voice of reason. I watched many of the videos on this subject and even printed out 89 pages of a research document on this subject by Jaco Princloo who based it on Scottie Clarke’s “revelation”. I was definitely fascinated but I was not fully convinced in my spirit. Then I asked the Holy Spirit to show me truth which scripture promises and to give me an open mind to receive and I “Binged” (I don’t Google anymore) September 23, 2017 and found your video calling it a false sign. I was familiar with your sound teaching and books so I was not disappointed with your presentation. I thank God for your heart that loves and protects the sheep from every wind of doctrine.

    I see in many comments many people still do not rightly divide scripture referring to the rapture taking the Church home vs scripture referring to Jesus’ second coming to finally establish His kingdom on earth. The “mystery” of the rapture was given to Apostle Paul and he alone to reveal it (I Cor 15:51-52; I Thess 4:16-17) just as the “mystery” of the gospel of grace was given to him alone…not taught by any man but given in direct revelation by Christ Jesus Himself.(Gal 1:11-12). Christ’s approach in the rapture is described quite differently from his approach at His second coming which will be on a white horse with the troops of heaven following on white horses, etc. (Rev.19:11-14). Your insight on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

  • Joel
    Posted at 09:12h, 04 May

    Deeply appreciated Jeanette.

    Many Blessings to you!

  • Bíblia Todo Dia
    Posted at 12:21h, 11 May

    Hello beloved,

    The day of Jesus’ coming does not know, what we can do is seek to live in communion with the Father through his grace manifested in Christ, for our sake.

    Regardless of which day it will be, may we be worthy to meet the Master in the heavens.

    God bless you all.

  • Jussten Thomas
    Posted at 21:31h, 12 May

    Dear Mr.Joel .. You have led the people to believe your belief , God didn’t send you a vision nor elaborated anything to you by confirmation or any proof other than the contradiction of what you are portraying. You want people to believe what you are saying and persuading others to believe the crap Satan layed upon you. God is the only one to preach this Sermon. Not Joel, Not anyone. Your time of speaking is done in the name of Jesus you are not helping others to the Signs and Symbols he lays before us. So do everyone a favor and keep speaking on this and watch God show you. You people want to speak in terminologys only to impress yourselves and possibly others but all I see is meaningless words. Hopefully whatever hits the earth and maybe not on Sep.23 2017 on this exact date. But how dare u question God’s signs clearly he said No Man nor Angel knows the time nor Hour of his Arrival. And Lord forbid God doesn’t Strike you for leading others not to believe in his Signs. The Lord may not return on Sep.23 2017 but believe yes coming maybe sooner . Do the world a favor and close your mouth you have no knowledge other than what he gives you. You can wake up with an mental issue by tomorrow not knowing how to Tie your shoes. It funny how Humans want to tell you anything , I Look for signs Just like my Father had revealed to me. You should do the same as the Wise Men were who were also astronomers and Found the Sign which the father had gave them. God shall make the First .. Last and the Last First. Those with knowledge of earth to be taught of the ones who obtain the truth. Good Day to you Mr.Joel. And I pray God doesnt send a terrible destruction your way once this matter happens it shall be an Eye Opener for you all.

  • Joel
    Posted at 04:29h, 13 May


    We are called to be Bereans, which means testing all things. You should not chastise someone for obeying the Lord, and for caring for the flock. It may be disappointing, but there is no great sign this year. Put your hope in Jesus, not every passing phase claim of some great sign. After this, no doubt, others will come.


  • ERIC
    Posted at 22:46h, 13 May

    Joel, do you believe that Christ will return on a Jewish feast day? I’ve heard very compelling arguments for this, since he fulfilled so many things on these days while on earth.


  • Joel
    Posted at 05:02h, 14 May

    I would think yes, and yes, Yom Teruah would likely be the day.

  • Jordan Shepherd
    Posted at 07:37h, 17 May

    Dear Joel, regarding the taken, I agree with your point on the context: For example, “But understand this: If the owner of the house had known in which watch of the night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. For this reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect Him.…” The Son of Man, in this context is like the thief. A thief takes your prized possession away. We are His possession and after the Tribulation (thillipsus) are we not the ones taken away? One further point, one could contend that Noah was taken away from destruction, whereas the wicked remained and perished. Surely those that remain, will experience the ‘orgay’ (wrath) of God/judgement poured out. Therefore, those taken – Could they be the righteous – taken away from the impending destruction?

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