Hey Joel. This is a very good eye opener. I have a couple of questions. I have read your book, the Mideast beast. Very good eye opener also. Do you think a time is coming that we Christians here in America will go through the same persecutions as our brothers are going through in the Middle East? And also. Do you think the two witnesses will be very, I guess, recognizable? I used to be a pre-trib believer. But now I’m not so sure. So I’m looking for all the signs and praying for Muslims and Jews.
Amen Joel!… “For the scepter of wickedness shall not rest on the land allotted to the righteous…” Ps 125 And …”Let all those who hate Zion be put to shame and turned back… Ps 129 If the USA was a righteuos nation, we would be over there right NOW helping Israel take out the trash instead of working against them at every turn. Come quickly Lord Jesus!
Joel,
I agree with David above. I read Mideast beast and am convinced. For someone who was always taught about the “end times” from a US centric focus (with respect to AC, etc), and realizing now it is primarily focused in the middle east, is there any biblical insight what those in the West should expect concurrently, specifically Christians? I think we have been conditioned to expect the mark of the beast, to be rampantly persecuted, etc, etc, but am wondering if this will even apply to those living in the west?
Matthew 24: 9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. 10 And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.”
These verses seem to apply to the whole church, but the context of Matthew 24 seems to be Judea. Personally, it seems best to prepare the whole church for this. Thanks for your ministry.
A little surprised that you didn’t mention Psalm 83 since it mentions a battle with all the so called Palestinians including Hezbollah and Hamas, Jordan and all the rest bordering Israel. In fact, in all of your videos on Armageddon news you take great pains to completely ignore Ps 83 and or its timeline. I’m guessing it’s because it doesn’t fit into your version of end times scenarios? Or maybe you don’t believe in a rapture? That’s not mentioned in your videos either. It would be nice if someone could get you to comment on these items, I know they have been asked of you before and afaik you haven’t answered them.
BTW you did a great job on the Armageddon News videos they are very well done. I watched them all and I agree with you about the mark of the beast and the Islamic anti Christ. All of the Babylon the Great & The Turkish Antichrist is spot on in my humble opinion.
Well, the Bible just lays it all out for us to see, doesn’t it? Jesus said in Matthew 24:25: “Behold, I have told you in advance.” Indeed, He has.
And this is the final outcome: “Hamas will no longer be heard in your land.” Isaiah 60:18
I am not Armageddon News.
Thanks, Joel, for the article. How do you think that the reaction and responses of the most of the world governing bodies and media towards Israel — in this frontal defense against what is generally agreed is terrorism and a terror organization and government — factors into God’s bringing nations to account as the Day of YHVH continues to draw nearer?
Dear David and Cory:
Biblical prophecy is always Jerusalem and Israel centric and so therefore, by deduction the West or the Western church is never addressed by God directly. I’m sure that is fairly self-evident to you. But that being said, Islam does indeed have plans for America within the global Islamic ummah. Will they accomplish those plans is the real question you should be asking. After some mind-bending research on my own, my humble opinion and projection is…yes, eventually!
Just because America as a whole will eventually fall to Islam doesn’t mean every Christian or Jew will submit because they will most certainly will not because of their relationship to Christ or their own Jewish faith. But it will be at a very high price, the incalculable cost of Christian discipleship. Islam holy war is here now within our US borders and it is not for a lack of trying on their part. But God has stopped them for their time has not yet come, but one day he will remove His protective hand, and it will.
The whole world will feel the hot breath of the Islamic beast and Mideast oil will cause many a nation to stumble.
Blessings!
Hi Joel,
What are the prophecies that have to be fulfilled yet? As Cory asks, do you think there will be marks given to us in the west? And lastly, does Obama scare you as much as he does me (which is a lot).
Thanks,
Tammy
Really interesting that this was part of the land Joshua did not fully conquer…somehow I completely missed that.
Very clearly and fairly put Joel. I have printed it, and shall pass it round.
@ Joel;
I have a feeling you are going to be extremely busy in the next few years. (I mean in big demand) Please be encouraged that the prophet Daniel has already told YOU and others like you that many will come but they will not understand, others will come and be of no help at all (Daniel 11:32-35).
It is my prayer for myself that I too can enter into this battle at a higher level. I am preparing for this but am patiently waiting for the Lord’s prompting. I admire greatly what you are doing for the Kingdom of Christ. I am fully aware of the battles of intellect that fight against what you teach. I honestly can’t think of any ministry that is more important than what you are trying to do at this time. I understand humanitarian needs are great but if we can’t deliver the truth to those we help we ultimately fail those who will come after us if the Lord waits. It is astounding to me how far the western church missed this and how prideful people do not even consider actual arguments for or against a particular point. They simply parrot what they have heard. We are grid locked politically in our country but in many ways the grid lock of deception is far greater amongst western Christians. If people were paying attention to the consequences of their own ignorance they would then realize how important it is to discover the truth for themselves and proclaim truth as the Bible presents it without distorting it to their own destruction . My entire post can actually be summed up with 2 Peter 3:14-18! Thanks for your humility and tireless work. I for one appreciate it greatly.
Nicely put Troy. I so appreciate Joel and others like him as well!
I’m thrilled you are feeling a call to join in the struggle. Only a very few can take on error in the Church universal but most of us can at least wake someone up and point them to sound teaching. In terms of the western church being gridlocked, I prefer “asleep.” as did Jesus in Matt. 25:5-6. One lesson of the Ten Virgins is that 50% wake up but never “get it” and are locked out of the Kingdom. But at least folks like you or me can gently wake them before the wake up call, which I expect will not be gentle.
Just as a point of interest, I typed in ‘Gaza’ into Bible Gateway. (http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=gaza&qs_version=KJV) The results were really interesting. Nothing, NOT ONE good thing came up about Gaza in the word of God. Gaza, it seems, will ultimately be a peaceful pasture for sheep after all that hamas. (Hamas = ‘violence’ in hebrew.) Baaaaa… sheep always win in the end.
Good article, Joel. But here is something to think about: (Joel 3:4) “Where it says ‘Tyre, Sidon’ and ‘the regions of Philistia’ one could nearly insert Hezboliah and Hamas. It is nearly pulled from today’s headlines”.
I don’t think that Hezbollah will take Israel on alone. I see them as part of the Ez. 38 & 39 coalition army. Instead I see “Tyre & Sidon” as representing the PLO. That’s where they were headquartered for years while attacking Northern Israel with rockets and cannon fire. In 1983, when Israel couldn’t take it anymore, even with condemnation from the rest of the world, they invaded Lebanon and in a relative short period of time decimated Arafat’s army, but let him escape. Israel discovered that the PLO had hidden in caves etc. enough small arms to to equip a million man army. This ended the PLO military threat, and I believe this is what Israel hopes to do to Hamas.
If this is truly the fulfilling of Joel 3:4, they will succeed.
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Hey Joel. This is a very good eye opener. I have a couple of questions. I have read your book, the Mideast beast. Very good eye opener also. Do you think a time is coming that we Christians here in America will go through the same persecutions as our brothers are going through in the Middle East? And also. Do you think the two witnesses will be very, I guess, recognizable? I used to be a pre-trib believer. But now I’m not so sure. So I’m looking for all the signs and praying for Muslims and Jews.
Amen Joel!… “For the scepter of wickedness shall not rest on the land allotted to the righteous…” Ps 125 And …”Let all those who hate Zion be put to shame and turned back… Ps 129 If the USA was a righteuos nation, we would be over there right NOW helping Israel take out the trash instead of working against them at every turn. Come quickly Lord Jesus!
Joel,
I agree with David above. I read Mideast beast and am convinced. For someone who was always taught about the “end times” from a US centric focus (with respect to AC, etc), and realizing now it is primarily focused in the middle east, is there any biblical insight what those in the West should expect concurrently, specifically Christians? I think we have been conditioned to expect the mark of the beast, to be rampantly persecuted, etc, etc, but am wondering if this will even apply to those living in the west?
Matthew 24: 9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. 10 And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.”
These verses seem to apply to the whole church, but the context of Matthew 24 seems to be Judea. Personally, it seems best to prepare the whole church for this. Thanks for your ministry.
A little surprised that you didn’t mention Psalm 83 since it mentions a battle with all the so called Palestinians including Hezbollah and Hamas, Jordan and all the rest bordering Israel. In fact, in all of your videos on Armageddon news you take great pains to completely ignore Ps 83 and or its timeline. I’m guessing it’s because it doesn’t fit into your version of end times scenarios? Or maybe you don’t believe in a rapture? That’s not mentioned in your videos either. It would be nice if someone could get you to comment on these items, I know they have been asked of you before and afaik you haven’t answered them.
BTW you did a great job on the Armageddon News videos they are very well done. I watched them all and I agree with you about the mark of the beast and the Islamic anti Christ. All of the Babylon the Great & The Turkish Antichrist is spot on in my humble opinion.
Well, the Bible just lays it all out for us to see, doesn’t it? Jesus said in Matthew 24:25: “Behold, I have told you in advance.” Indeed, He has.
And this is the final outcome: “Hamas will no longer be heard in your land.” Isaiah 60:18
I am not Armageddon News.
Thanks, Joel, for the article. How do you think that the reaction and responses of the most of the world governing bodies and media towards Israel — in this frontal defense against what is generally agreed is terrorism and a terror organization and government — factors into God’s bringing nations to account as the Day of YHVH continues to draw nearer?
Dear David and Cory:
Biblical prophecy is always Jerusalem and Israel centric and so therefore, by deduction the West or the Western church is never addressed by God directly. I’m sure that is fairly self-evident to you. But that being said, Islam does indeed have plans for America within the global Islamic ummah. Will they accomplish those plans is the real question you should be asking. After some mind-bending research on my own, my humble opinion and projection is…yes, eventually!
Just because America as a whole will eventually fall to Islam doesn’t mean every Christian or Jew will submit because they will most certainly will not because of their relationship to Christ or their own Jewish faith. But it will be at a very high price, the incalculable cost of Christian discipleship. Islam holy war is here now within our US borders and it is not for a lack of trying on their part. But God has stopped them for their time has not yet come, but one day he will remove His protective hand, and it will.
The whole world will feel the hot breath of the Islamic beast and Mideast oil will cause many a nation to stumble.
Blessings!
Hi Joel,
What are the prophecies that have to be fulfilled yet? As Cory asks, do you think there will be marks given to us in the west? And lastly, does Obama scare you as much as he does me (which is a lot).
Thanks,
Tammy
Really interesting that this was part of the land Joshua did not fully conquer…somehow I completely missed that.
Very clearly and fairly put Joel. I have printed it, and shall pass it round.
@ Joel;
I have a feeling you are going to be extremely busy in the next few years. (I mean in big demand) Please be encouraged that the prophet Daniel has already told YOU and others like you that many will come but they will not understand, others will come and be of no help at all (Daniel 11:32-35).
It is my prayer for myself that I too can enter into this battle at a higher level. I am preparing for this but am patiently waiting for the Lord’s prompting. I admire greatly what you are doing for the Kingdom of Christ. I am fully aware of the battles of intellect that fight against what you teach. I honestly can’t think of any ministry that is more important than what you are trying to do at this time. I understand humanitarian needs are great but if we can’t deliver the truth to those we help we ultimately fail those who will come after us if the Lord waits. It is astounding to me how far the western church missed this and how prideful people do not even consider actual arguments for or against a particular point. They simply parrot what they have heard. We are grid locked politically in our country but in many ways the grid lock of deception is far greater amongst western Christians. If people were paying attention to the consequences of their own ignorance they would then realize how important it is to discover the truth for themselves and proclaim truth as the Bible presents it without distorting it to their own destruction . My entire post can actually be summed up with 2 Peter 3:14-18! Thanks for your humility and tireless work. I for one appreciate it greatly.
Nicely put Troy. I so appreciate Joel and others like him as well!
I’m thrilled you are feeling a call to join in the struggle. Only a very few can take on error in the Church universal but most of us can at least wake someone up and point them to sound teaching. In terms of the western church being gridlocked, I prefer “asleep.” as did Jesus in Matt. 25:5-6. One lesson of the Ten Virgins is that 50% wake up but never “get it” and are locked out of the Kingdom. But at least folks like you or me can gently wake them before the wake up call, which I expect will not be gentle.
Just as a point of interest, I typed in ‘Gaza’ into Bible Gateway. (http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=gaza&qs_version=KJV) The results were really interesting. Nothing, NOT ONE good thing came up about Gaza in the word of God. Gaza, it seems, will ultimately be a peaceful pasture for sheep after all that hamas. (Hamas = ‘violence’ in hebrew.) Baaaaa… sheep always win in the end.
Good article, Joel. But here is something to think about: (Joel 3:4) “Where it says ‘Tyre, Sidon’ and ‘the regions of Philistia’ one could nearly insert Hezboliah and Hamas. It is nearly pulled from today’s headlines”.
I don’t think that Hezbollah will take Israel on alone. I see them as part of the Ez. 38 & 39 coalition army. Instead I see “Tyre & Sidon” as representing the PLO. That’s where they were headquartered for years while attacking Northern Israel with rockets and cannon fire. In 1983, when Israel couldn’t take it anymore, even with condemnation from the rest of the world, they invaded Lebanon and in a relative short period of time decimated Arafat’s army, but let him escape. Israel discovered that the PLO had hidden in caves etc. enough small arms to to equip a million man army. This ended the PLO military threat, and I believe this is what Israel hopes to do to Hamas.
If this is truly the fulfilling of Joel 3:4, they will succeed.