During my recent trip to Istanbul, I had the opportunity to visit a second time with the Turkish author and television personality, Adnan Oktar. The meeting, which can be watched below, has been edited quite heavily. During our visit, as is my obligation and joy, I invited Mr. Oktar to leave Islam and become a follower of Jesus. Specifically, the Jesus of the Bible as opposed to the false Jesus of the Qur’an. This portion of the discussion, as well as several other shorter portions have been edited out. I ask all who read this post to please continue to pray for Mr. Oktar and his very kind followers. Pray that they would have a genuine encounter with the Holy Spirit and find true repentance unto salvation that is only found through the atoning work of Jesus Christ on the cross, according to the Scriptures.
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Joel, I can’t wait to hear your take on what is happening in Egypt today?
me too. Isaiah 19?
Joel,
The bit in the interview when Oktar began speaking about the djinn interacting with humans in order to spread Islam, would you think this is alluded to in Daniel 2:43 (THEY will mingle with the seed of men)?
I understand this part is speaking about the divided shia/sunni kingom, but im not sure who ‘they’ are supposed to be. Any thoughts?
Giles,
I do not think this is what is being referenced in Daniel 2:43. I’ll have some comments on Egypt here in another day or so.
Blessings
Hey Joel,
God bless your honest sincere heart. Was there any particular reason for your 2nd interview with adnan oktar? Do you believe he has any significant role in anything? How did you like his interpolation of scripture? He seems very intellegiant, I don’t know if he speaks they way he does on purpose. Like when you told him christians have intrest in any alliance, he would generalize what he said in response as if he was trying to convince you. I also noticed he cut your prayer off.
Joel,
Can you post the unedited version?
Forest,
I do not have the unedited version.
Is he equating the dajjal with darwinism? Or is the antichrist seperate for them from the dajjal?
Very interesting Joel,
Question: You are speaking English and him Turkish (I assume). Is there a translator involved that is edited out?
I’m thinking Oktar will have a major role in politically allowing for the rebuilding of the temple.
Hi Joel:
Thank you for doing this interview. Very revealing and provocative. Can you please provide the Quranic ayat that you reference regarding Israel’s right to the land? I have not come across those verses, or else did not interpret them correctly.
Also, Aktar’s outlandish interpretation of Luke 22 reminds me of something Zakir Naik and Shabir Ally would say. It seems that, almost without exception, Muslim scholars are unable to interpret a holy book that has any real context (like the Bible and unlike the Quran). Obviously this would apply to anyone who does not have the Spirit of God within them, but it makes me think that sharing Biblical context would be a powerful evangelism tool with Muslims in particular. Is this true in your experience?
In His Love,
Gabe
Does he realise that when he speaks of the Mhadi you are actually sitting there thinking of the anti Christ? I noticed the bit where you said that you don’t make “allances” with Muslims…especially the Mhadi. Had to smile at that.
Very interesting stuff, anyway. Thanks.
I would like to hear your take on when he spoke about the aquarian. “You will meet a man with water………
My understanding is that Jesus was simply refering to setting up the last supper, meanwile my research shows this as a new age theory, which somehow they misinterpret from scripture.
Is this concept in islam or Is mr oktar in to this new age movement?
Phillip,
Yes there was a translator. That also has been edited out. And having now seen the after version, I think that large segments of the conversation were not fully translated even as we were speaking.
Bless you Bro.
Peter,
I have never heard this discussed by any other Muslims. Seems to be a unique take.
Gabe,
Qur’an 10:93 93
Qur’an 7:137
Surah 5:21
Surah 17:104
So Joel: Where is Oktar on your list of current Antichrist candidates?
Forrest,
Oktar is not the Antichrist.
Thanks for responding Joel: I am keeping an eye on him as my leading candidate since
1 he thinks he’s the Mahdi(without coming out and saying it himself):
2. He is feverishly in pursuit of power/worship: has over 300 websites!
3. Has the ear and might I say adulation of certain religious segments within Israel
4. Proponent of the fantasy of “Peaceful Islam” which the world desperately wants to believe
5. His birthplace is within the ancient Assyrian empire: the Assyrian is a title for Antichrist.
6. Allah has blessed him with numerous concubines/similar to Mohammed.
7. Oktar was once committed to an insane asylum and diagnosed schizophrenic i.e. demonically possessed. (parallels Mohammed)
Time will tell. Shalom Joel: be careful with Oktar: he’s a very dangerous fellow!
Perfect, thank you very much for the references.
And although Oktar is obviously not antichrist, I think his argument in favor of Darwinism and materialism as a sort of ideological antichrist is fascinating. Wouldn’t it be ironic if the AC turns out to be the exact OPPOSITE of what many evangelicals believe he will be? That is, a deeply “spiritual” person who actually rejects Darwinism/ materialism instead of championing it. Combine that with Oktar’s seeming uber-tolerance of Judaism and Christianity (not to mention his advocacy for a Third Temple) and it all seems like a very likely recipe for a Great Deception. I wouldn’t think it’s a far stretch to say that antichrist will be influenced by Oktar’s line of teaching (or something similar) and is possibly even a student of his right now in Turkey. (Although personally I believe he will be younger, savvy with social media, and will appeal widely to the X’ers and Millennials of the “youthquake.” So definitely not Erdogan either). All speculation I guess, but definitely worth paying attention.
Forrest,
I am quite familiar with Oktar. In fact, few Christians would even be aware of him if it were not for my public meeting with him in 2009. Nevertheless, I think that casting anyone as the AC at this time is far from the best use of our very limited time and resources as disciples of Jesus. I believe our primary mandate now according to the Scriptures should be about extending invitations to the lost to the coming wedding feast. The time will come when it is proper to sound the alarm concerning the AC. Until then, there will be many precursors and things to watch of course, but my advice is not to get overly distracted by this kind of endeavor. Many others have been confident that they had identified the AC and wasted far too much time. For now we should look to the emerging signs as reason to be all the more urgent in our proclamation of the Gospel. The time may be much shorter than many think.
Blessings
I agree preaching the Gospel is top priority: I have had a house to house Gospel Tract Ministry since 1983. I don’t spend very much time on Oktar, there’s not that much to learn: I am mostly interested in the status and position of the people(especially Israelis) who view him as a peace maker in the region: Some members of the Israeli Sanhedrin for example.
Again thanks for responding and may the Lord bless you and your ministry: I have learned a lot. Shalom
Joel,
How can I mail you? Do you have a public email address?
Blessings,
Micha.
Whether we are looking at Turkey, Syria, or Egypt, we have gained a breathing spell, Joel.
Thank you for your hard work to make hay while the sun shines, because who knows how much time we have before the Muslim Jesus shows up to buck up the Muslims?