Love Jonathan Bernis. I have this book on order.
Awesome interview!!
Thank you, Joel both for your book, “When A Jew Rules The World” which I’m on the last couple of pages of and your participation on the webinar last night hosted by Jonathan Bernis which I watched. As I was reading these last pages there came to mind a small book a missionary in Bolivia had in his collection I’d seen 30 years ago, the title of which was something like, “Who is a Jew?” I did not really read it, but just now went online and found the passage from Romans 2, verses 28 and 29. I was saved 40 years ago (in miraculous fashion) and thus began my introduction to scripture both Old and New Testaments – so I know this passage well. Reading your book has certainly been an awakening and awareness especially as I, a gentile, had had a lifelong interest in all televised documentary of the Holocaust. Thanks to your book I realize there is certainly thinking and introspection that we Believers must do. Back to Ro. 2:28-29. How do you interpret this scripture in light of the topics you so thoughtfully put forth in your book?
Jess,
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. Romans 2:27-29
First, the word Jew comes from “Judah” which means “praise.” In speaking about Jews, Paul is simply saying here that mere outward circumcision of the flesh, (which was viewed as a mark of identification for Jews, ala Genesis 17), does not make one a true Jew. Rather a true Jew is one who is one inwardly, having a circumcision of the heart, made by the spirit. Thus he truly lives up to his name as a Jew, (praise) and will receive praise from God.
Do not misinterpret this whoever to be saying that any Gentile who has a circumcised heart is thus a Jew. Such would not only be a misreading, but would also contradict numerous other comments that Paul makes on this matter throughout his writings.
I hope this has helped.
Blessings,
Joel
Hey Joel dont know if you have seen this but I believe the fellow is not being upright in his presentation of you to a closed audience( Rome antichrist believers) I havee followed you for number of years and found you to be upright, though we disagree about certain things re rapture trib ect( God will open your eyes one day:), I dont beieve you were ignorant of this passage as this fellow said and he needs challenged by you; that is of course that I have assumed correctly and he is talking about you….
Unfortunately, for the past several years, Dr. David Reagan has been perhaps the most vocal opponent of some of the ideas I teach. He seems quite personally fixated on this matter:
I would argue that as in his previous article, Dr. Reagan is again simply wrong on nearly every point that he makes. In the end however, what he says, or what I say, matters none in terms of determining what will actually unfold in the future. What is going to unfold will unfold, regardless of our opinions. I personally think the Antichrist will be a Muslim, I think the Scriptural case is fairly conclusive for such, and I sincerely hope the watchmen will be alert to and ready for this possibility. But in the end, no one has a corner on all truth, and every so-called “prophecy teacher” out there will have gotten some things wrong and will be humbled. We are not prophets, (though some certainly act like they are). Our job however is to expound the Scriptures and examine the signs of the times in a responsible and humble manner in order to prepare the folks for what is ahead.
It is here where I have the greatest concern regarding Dr. Reagan’s position. He claims that the Middle East is about to be reduced to ashes, and Islam will be wiped out prior to the coming Antichrist, perhaps very soon. This is greatly damaging to any who follow him and who may be considering actually going to the Middle East as missionaries to share the Gospel. In fact, some years ago, I challenged Nathan Jones, his assistant, on this point. I asked him, since Dr. Reagan teaches that the entire Middle East is about to be “imminently” destroyed, would it be wise for a close friend of mine and his young family to go to the Middle East as missionaries. Nathan refused to answer, as my question demonstrated the irresponsibility of Dr. Reagan’s position. Well, my friends have been there for two and a half years now, praise God. But if they had followed Dr. Reagan’s teachings they would never have gone. Why would you lead your family into a region that is imminently about to be “reduced to ashes”?
Beyond wrangling about the Antichrist, this is my much greater concern with Dr. Reagan’s position, I feel it creates a powerful demotivating factor for the proclamation of the Gospel among Muslims in the Middle East. I believe Islam represents the greatest challenge to the Church globally before Jesus returns and we need to be about the business of declaring the Gospel among Muslims.
In the end, despite our differences of opinion, Dr. Reagan is a brother. He has been faithfully proclaiming the Gospel for years, and for this, I truly honor him for his service and love for Jesus.
Blessings!
Joel
Keep telling the truth. Matthew 11:12 “”From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force. “”
Very good interview Joel. Nice, condensed explanation.
Also very good explanation of Dr. Reagan and the difference of opinions. Christians are all brothers and can disagree, but are all still part of the same body. Although we have the Word, only our Messiah knows what will truly take place. I am sure all of us will have gotten certain aspects wrong as we currently see through a glass darkly.
Joel,
Can explain the timing of Christ’s “visit” to earth in Rev 14:1?
14 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
It seems like this is a visit to earth before the “second” coming.
Comments?
RK.
Just watched End times witness you tube. Heard you say you are Portuguese! My mom’s parents were from the Azores (Nordash/Agua Torta) St Michael. When mom visited my grandfather’s childhood home, people still on the island that know our family line said that we are from Jewish descent.
Many times when renovating the old homes they find Jewish artifacts hidden in the walls! Just thought I would share that you could very well be from Jewish descent as well!
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-crisis-turkey-and-saudi-arabia-shock-western-countries-by-supporting-antiassad-jihadists-10242747.html
Interesting article.
Love Jonathan Bernis. I have this book on order.
Awesome interview!!
Thank you, Joel both for your book, “When A Jew Rules The World” which I’m on the last couple of pages of and your participation on the webinar last night hosted by Jonathan Bernis which I watched. As I was reading these last pages there came to mind a small book a missionary in Bolivia had in his collection I’d seen 30 years ago, the title of which was something like, “Who is a Jew?” I did not really read it, but just now went online and found the passage from Romans 2, verses 28 and 29. I was saved 40 years ago (in miraculous fashion) and thus began my introduction to scripture both Old and New Testaments – so I know this passage well. Reading your book has certainly been an awakening and awareness especially as I, a gentile, had had a lifelong interest in all televised documentary of the Holocaust. Thanks to your book I realize there is certainly thinking and introspection that we Believers must do. Back to Ro. 2:28-29. How do you interpret this scripture in light of the topics you so thoughtfully put forth in your book?
Jess,
First, the word Jew comes from “Judah” which means “praise.” In speaking about Jews, Paul is simply saying here that mere outward circumcision of the flesh, (which was viewed as a mark of identification for Jews, ala Genesis 17), does not make one a true Jew. Rather a true Jew is one who is one inwardly, having a circumcision of the heart, made by the spirit. Thus he truly lives up to his name as a Jew, (praise) and will receive praise from God.
Do not misinterpret this whoever to be saying that any Gentile who has a circumcised heart is thus a Jew. Such would not only be a misreading, but would also contradict numerous other comments that Paul makes on this matter throughout his writings.
I hope this has helped.
Blessings,
Joel
Hey Joel dont know if you have seen this but I believe the fellow is not being upright in his presentation of you to a closed audience( Rome antichrist believers) I havee followed you for number of years and found you to be upright, though we disagree about certain things re rapture trib ect( God will open your eyes one day:), I dont beieve you were ignorant of this passage as this fellow said and he needs challenged by you; that is of course that I have assumed correctly and he is talking about you….
http://www.raptureforums.com/FeaturedCommentary/doestheriseofisispointtoamuslimantichrist.cfm
Barasheet
Unfortunately, for the past several years, Dr. David Reagan has been perhaps the most vocal opponent of some of the ideas I teach. He seems quite personally fixated on this matter:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R4HK2M0NLAL3R/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1414104405
I have invited him to debate the matter publicly for years, but he is unwilling to do so.
Here is a response I wrote some years ago to one of his previous articles:
https://joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/A_Response_to_Dr_Reagans_Article-Will_the_Antichrist_be_a_Muslim-Joel_Richardson.pdf
I would argue that as in his previous article, Dr. Reagan is again simply wrong on nearly every point that he makes. In the end however, what he says, or what I say, matters none in terms of determining what will actually unfold in the future. What is going to unfold will unfold, regardless of our opinions. I personally think the Antichrist will be a Muslim, I think the Scriptural case is fairly conclusive for such, and I sincerely hope the watchmen will be alert to and ready for this possibility. But in the end, no one has a corner on all truth, and every so-called “prophecy teacher” out there will have gotten some things wrong and will be humbled. We are not prophets, (though some certainly act like they are). Our job however is to expound the Scriptures and examine the signs of the times in a responsible and humble manner in order to prepare the folks for what is ahead.
It is here where I have the greatest concern regarding Dr. Reagan’s position. He claims that the Middle East is about to be reduced to ashes, and Islam will be wiped out prior to the coming Antichrist, perhaps very soon. This is greatly damaging to any who follow him and who may be considering actually going to the Middle East as missionaries to share the Gospel. In fact, some years ago, I challenged Nathan Jones, his assistant, on this point. I asked him, since Dr. Reagan teaches that the entire Middle East is about to be “imminently” destroyed, would it be wise for a close friend of mine and his young family to go to the Middle East as missionaries. Nathan refused to answer, as my question demonstrated the irresponsibility of Dr. Reagan’s position. Well, my friends have been there for two and a half years now, praise God. But if they had followed Dr. Reagan’s teachings they would never have gone. Why would you lead your family into a region that is imminently about to be “reduced to ashes”?
Beyond wrangling about the Antichrist, this is my much greater concern with Dr. Reagan’s position, I feel it creates a powerful demotivating factor for the proclamation of the Gospel among Muslims in the Middle East. I believe Islam represents the greatest challenge to the Church globally before Jesus returns and we need to be about the business of declaring the Gospel among Muslims.
In the end, despite our differences of opinion, Dr. Reagan is a brother. He has been faithfully proclaiming the Gospel for years, and for this, I truly honor him for his service and love for Jesus.
Blessings!
Joel
Keep telling the truth. Matthew 11:12 “”From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force. “”
Very good interview Joel. Nice, condensed explanation.
Also very good explanation of Dr. Reagan and the difference of opinions. Christians are all brothers and can disagree, but are all still part of the same body. Although we have the Word, only our Messiah knows what will truly take place. I am sure all of us will have gotten certain aspects wrong as we currently see through a glass darkly.
Joel,
Can explain the timing of Christ’s “visit” to earth in Rev 14:1?
14 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
It seems like this is a visit to earth before the “second” coming.
Comments?
RK.
Just watched End times witness you tube. Heard you say you are Portuguese! My mom’s parents were from the Azores (Nordash/Agua Torta) St Michael. When mom visited my grandfather’s childhood home, people still on the island that know our family line said that we are from Jewish descent.
Many times when renovating the old homes they find Jewish artifacts hidden in the walls! Just thought I would share that you could very well be from Jewish descent as well!
Blessings
Gail
https://nuggets4u.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/lesson-list/