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Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoğlu calls for a new regional neo-Ottoman order

For the past several years, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, the chief architect of Prime Minister Erdoğan’s ruling Islamist Justice and Development Party, has repeatedly denied the Turkish government’s regional “neo-Ottoman” plans. In 2009, Davutoğlu determinedly repudiated all claims that he was leading Turkey back to the Ottoman era. Against the mounting charges made by various political analysts and journalists, the FM protested, “When others use [this term], I have always warned that we do not count it correct.”

But like so many double-speaking “progressive” politicians here in the U.S., Davutoğlu has suddenly changed his tune and is now all in for Turkish neo-Ottomanism. In a recent meeting with American Secretary of State John Kerry – the U.S. senator who was against funding the war in Iraq, until he was for it – Davutoğlu seems to have come down with an acute case of Kerry’s flip-flopism. According to the foreign minister, neo-Ottomanism is now the coming new order for the whole Middle East. As reported in Al-Monitor, Davutoğlu said that, “Last century was only a parenthesis for us. We will close that parenthesis.”

So last century was a mere “parenthesis” that will soon be closed. Under Davutoğlu and Erdoğan’s direction, Turkey will return the region to its previous Ottoman order. The period of Kemalism and secularism in Turkey is coming to a close. Davutoğlu continued, “We will do so without going to war, or calling anyone an enemy, without being disrespectful to any border.”

According to the FM, Turkey will bring about a new regional order, complete with Turkish leadership, of course, without any war “or calling anyone an enemy.”

Unless, of course, we are speaking of neighboring Syrian President Bashar Assad, whom Erdoğan recently called “a mute devil” who must be ousted.

Or unless we are speaking of Kurdish separatists, roughly 500 of whom Erdoğan recently bragged of killing via the Turkish military within a few days.

Or unless we are speaking of those who espouse the concept of Israeli self-determination knowns as Zionism, which Erdoğan recently compared to fascism and called it “a crime against humanity.”

Davutoğlu’s comments continued:

“[W]e will again tie Sarajevo to Damascus, Benghazi to Erzurum to Batumi. This is the core of our power. … These may look like all different countries to you, but Yemen and Skopje were part of the same country 110 years ago, or Erzurum and Benghazi. When we say this, they call it ‘new Ottomanism.’ The ones who united the whole Europe don’t become new Romans, but the ones who unite the Middle East geography are called as new Ottomanists.”

And then Davutoğlu finally admitted that it is time to wear the title of “Ottoman” with pride:

“It’s an honor to be [identified] with the names of Ottomans, Seljuks, Artuklu or Eyyubi, but we have never or will ever have our eye on anyone’s land based on a historic background. … The people who lived together throughout the history in this region were torn apart from each other in the last century; they grew distant from each other. Turkey was the central country at the time when borders were diminished, geography was divided and economic spheres were separated. As if these are not enough, a new seed of division started to be planted in our country.”

As Davutoğlu’s comments continued, what became clear is his Obama-esque determination to pursue his program, regardless of of its failures:

“What I have observed in foreign policy practice is that if you have a right reading, and presented a firm position, you may receive criticism in the first place, but you will get results in the mid- and long-term. What is important is to stand firm there. If you are confident of your policy, you should not give any concessions. What is important is not to be indecisive at a critical, decision-making moment.”

The danger, of course, is what will happen when the Turkish academic’s theories don’t play out on the ground. What price Turkey is willing to pay to see this new regional order established will soon be tested in Syria. We have already seen how Turkey responds with a fierce military reaction to the non-conforming Kurdish separatists on her eastern flank.

Far worse is the potential for what life would be like for the state of Israel under such a new regional order led by a nation whose leader calls Israel’s legal right to protect itself and establish legal settlements a “crime against humanity.”

The Bible reveals that in the days to come, Israel will indeed become the victim of this coming new regional “order.” The culmination of these things, the Bible says, will result in all of the nations throughout the region gathering together against Jerusalem (cf., Joel 3:2; Zechariah 12:2-3; 14:2; Luke 21:24). While it is impossible for us to know the precise timing of all these things, it would certainly seem that the storm clouds are forming.

Davutoğlu speaks of leaving behind the recent century, known for its secularism, and returning to the time when Yemen, at the far south of the Arabian peninsula, all the way to Skopje in European Macedonia are part of the same country.

Can you say neo-Ottoman caliphate? That time will no doubt come, but for now, we can be sure that Davutoğlu would deny any such term – before he openly calls for it.

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  1. Kinda of strange how John Kerry was in Turkey just a few weeks ago taking on the PM for his offensive remarks regarding Isreal, and then Obama visited Israel twisting Netanyahu’s arm to appologize over the flotilla epasode.
    March 22 News article, “It was a surprising turnaround for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who had long rejected calls to apologize. He announced the breakthrough after a 20 minute conversation with his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdogen. Obama helped broker the fence-mending while visiting Israel, but the sides had been reaching out to each other fefore. ‘They agreed to restore normalization between Israel and Turkey, including the dispatch of ambassadors and the cancellation of legal steps against Israeli soldiers,’ a statement Netanyahu’s office said. Netanyahu ‘regretted the recent deterioration between Israel and Turkey and expressed his commitment to overcoming their differences in order to advance peace and stability in the region,’ It said.”
    If you are familiar with 119 Ministries’ Daniel time line, it is interesting that this took place on their March 22, 2013 prediction.

  2. Joel I don’t understand what this phrase “Israel’s legal right to protect itself and establish legal settlements”.

    Can you explain what you mean here? Are you saying that the illegal Israeli settlements on Palestinian land are Israel’s legal right? Can you please explain by whose law the Israelis are empowered to seize Palestinian land and establish Israeli settlements on it? Or have I misunderstood you? Are you referring to something else.

    I agree with you that his language is overly emotive, but clearly seizing someone else’s land is a crime, isn’t it?

  3. Thanks for your insight into end of age events. Question: Have you in the past or could you now provide your view of what the ten modern nations might be that form the start for the the antichrists (Gog’s) rise to power?

  4. Turkish Hegemony. The more I see and hear of what’s going on in the Middle East, the more it seems that Turkey’s rise will be quiet, sly and yet forceful. Inserting itself via power vaccums. Turkey can offer “peace” and stability. Economic turmoil in Greece and Cyprus? Civil war and dissolution in Syria. Unsteady nations of Egypt and Libya still trying to find a course after the “spring”. The nations crumble, Turkey steps in to pick up the pieces, offering peace and stability. There probably won’t be a specific empire at first, but at the very least there’ll be an implied and then eventual literal confederation and then union.

  5. @Deane

    Obviously you are following our friend Joel’s blog. However, I must state that I am more confused by your question that perhaps you are. I assume you believe in the Holy Bible? If not, I am confused as to why you would be following this blog. I am happy that you are following Joel’s blog, but his posts will make little sense if you are not a Believer, in my opinion.

    But to answer your question about clarifying Joel’s comments about Israel’s right to establish settlements is quite simple.

    In Genesis 15:18-21,

    “On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, ‘To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates — the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites.’”

    If you break out a map and you draw a circle encompassing those borders and the historical lands of those mentioned above, you will see that it engulfs all of Israel, Palestine, Jordan, half of Saudi Arabia, nearly all of Iraq, all of the Sinai peninsula, all of Syria, all of Lebanon. Of course the borders would not be a perfect circle, but this would give you an idea of the scope of land promised by God the Almighty and the Creator of everything to the Israelites. We could argue the exact borders all day long, but what we cannot argue is that it encompasses ALL of modern day Israel and Palestine.

    That is the Authority (Law) that Joel as well as myself and many others on here base Israel’s right on. Now if you choose not to believe in the Holy Scriptures of God’s Word, then there is no point in continuing the discussion. If you do believe in the Bible, then I hope this helps you understand better.

  6. @ John,

    I am sure Joel will tell you which nations he thinks will comprise the 10 nations. Jordan will not be among them however as the Bible tells us that Jordan will escape the Antichrist’s hand.

    Nations that I have worked out are:
    Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon. Then there are a few others that I have concluded will likely be a part of the list: Pakistan or possibly even Afghanistan as being the 10th member.

    The Bible warns that the king of the south (Egypt) will form a 3 nation coalition and attack the king of the north (Turkey) in which the king of the north will defeat them and then begin to form the 10 nation member of the beast empire. You see, when 3 countries (Egypt, Sudan, and Libya) come against Turkey and Turkey defats all three of them, the world will be in awe and particularly the other countries in the middle east like those I previously listed. They will then fall into line under Turkey.

    I look to Joel for any corrections if I am way off base, etc.

  7. This is history in the making Joel… the actions of the Turkish government and the demagogue Erdogan betray their intentions at every turn. Certainly, the leopard does not change his spots. The process of empowerment might be greatly enhanced by a tactical strike on Iran’s capabilities, which would play into their hands, an eventuality made more likely by the oblique comments of Obama that Israel should be able to defend itself against such threats. The fall of Syria and the diminution of Iran would open the way for the power vacuum I envision here.

  8. Turkey is the location of all 7 churches and Jesus even called one of the cities “satan’s throne.”

    Hmmmmmmmm…..

  9. “The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.” Revelation 17:11

    Be about the work of ministry! This Beast is coming!

  10. Exactly 1260 days before March 22 2013, Obama received the Nobel Peace prize. Not for any actual peace but for his vision and ability to voice that vision in elegance. (Flattery speech ).
    He has been more warmongering than any peaceful president I can think of. We are seeing the chess peices set in order. The Euphrates will be dry by summer. Don’t forget Obama’s first state visit was to Turkey before Cairo.
    Even so come quickly Lord Yeshua

  11. Hi Ron,

    Yes I believe the Holy Bible. Driving a family off the vineyard or olive grove that has been in their family for generations to take it for myself is a crime. It is stealing. The law that matters the most in the Bible is the law of love. As a Christian I could not drive a family off their own land and into a refugee center so that my family could take it over for themselves and then go to God and worship Him. Therefore I cannot see how a non Christian Jew can do this to his neighbour in the name of the same God.

    If it isn’t love – it isn’t legal.

  12. fish
    I don’t follow the sacred name movement or the hebrew roots movements, I suggest that you don’t.
    Jesus will soon pull His ambassadors out before this world goes to war. Look up, I’m not looking for the antichrist I’m looking for my savior and deliverer from the wrath to come.

  13. The Ottoman Empire died when it lost it’s head in March, 1923. Now it awaits Its new head to live once again. I think most of us who are following the unfolding news on this subject have a good idea who He is. I’m personally looking forward to breaking news by Ramadan which starts July 9, 2013.

  14. Eddie regarding your comment [Jesus will soon pull His ambassadors out before this world goes to war. Look up, I’m not looking for the antichrist I’m looking for my savior and deliverer from the wrath to come.] Both Jesus and the apostle Paul taught that the rapture would happen after the great falling away from the faith (apostasy) and after the abomination of desolation.

    1. The apostasy (many people falling away from the faith) Matthew 24:10, 2 Thessalonians 2:3

    2. Abomination of desolation Matthew 24:15 and 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

    3. Rapture of the elect (people of God) Matthew 24:30-31 and 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2

    God’s people do go through “birth pangs” and tribulation and are raptured at the “last” trumpet as the apostle Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:50-52 (See Revelation 11:15). God’s people (the elect) do miss the seven bowls of wrath (therefore a pre-wrath rapture).

    http://adventofmessiah.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/signs-of-his-coming-the-end-of-the-age/

  15. Let us also keep in mind the apology given to Turkey, by Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.

    It is a stepping stone to the agreement struck between Israel and the Anti-Christ.

  16. Dear Deane,

    You say that God is not only love, but are conveniently omitting He is equally the source of truth. And the truth of the matter is that God gave the Holy Land, the land of Israel in its entirety to the Jewish people, the seed of Abraham, not Ishmael’s descendants (Ishmaelites/Arabs). Therefore, the legitimate right of the Holy Land belongs to Abraham’s seed FOREVER as God has so promised. The Arabs, therefore, are trespassers on the Holy Land of the Jewish people and have no legitimate right to even be in the land as “so-called” owners. Therefore, who ever divides the land against the Jewish people is in severe danger of the judgment of a holy and righteous living God. For He is jealous over his people, Israel and His holy city, Jerusalem. You do need to believe what God says upon the matter, if you say you allegedly believe the Bible. Either you do not believe God or you don’t read your Bible. But I suggest you do both.

  17. Deane, was it illegal for God to demand that the Canaanites to be decimated? Will it be legal of Jesus to return and slash the unrepentant to pieces so his white robe will be stained with blood? The problem with the modern Church is that they have made Jesus into a hippy from the 1960’s that would be happy to do a sing along with John Lennon. Love without Justice is meaningless. Also, I very much doubt that a Jew would have kicked a person off their land to build a settle ment. I think you may be falling for propaganda.

  18. Do not forget the countries to the north. They are important to Russia and Germany. The countries to the north east are also important for land, oil, gas, population. Those are former Russia controlled countries.

  19. I have been teaching the same home bible study group for 40 years. About 30 years ago, we spent 3 years studying eschatology – pre-trip, mid-trip, post-trip, you name it, we studied it. At the end I was more confused than when we first begun. I concluded that what the Angel told Daniel, “that these things would be sealed until the end times” was true. So I put the subject away until just recently. Revelation knowledge that the Holy Spirit is opening to me, has been nothing but miraculous. A recent restudy of Romans 11 has led me to believe that the time for “all Israel to saved” and the “fullness of the Gentile be come in” is near at hand. The question is: Has the “Gospel of the Kingdom been preached to all nations as a witness” been full filled? To me there remains one region mostly untouched. Today it is referred to as “the ten-forty window. The area that Satan has controlled since the Garden of Eden. The kingdoms He told Jesus He would give him if He would fall and worship Him. The land God told Abraham to get out of. The land the Holy Spirit forbid Paul to go preach in. The land of Islam! These poor souls deserve a chance to hear the Good News of God’s Kingdom. This awesome journey of “Revelation” started back in mid December when out of the blue God put it on my heart to start praying for Muslims. I’d had never heard of Joel Richardson at that time, but now I know that I share the same burden that God put into his heart many years ago. I’m convince that like God did for Daniel, He reveals His plans to true Intercessors.

  20. Deanne,

    As I have stated before, your gross approach to theology, your deeply lop-sided perspective on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and your obvious proclivity to accept every negative claim concerning the Jewish people, while repeatedly defending or down-playing the excessive evils of the Palestinian leadership and a large percentage of the population, betrays your anti-Semitism. I allow many people to post their comments on this site, all who express quite a range of views. But one thing I will not tolerate is a condescending anti-Semite who hides their prejudice behind a feigned compassion for the suffering Palestinian people. Literally, the only time you have ever offered a single comment is when it is indicting the Jewish people, and belittling those who disagree with you as ignorant and un-Christ-like. You have been banned. I’m quite sure that Stephen Sizer, Gary Burge, Ben White and others of their ilk will love having you spread your hatred on their blogs.

  21. Joel – thanks for your consistent solid hermeneutics as you teach. You have greatly helped me in my understanding of end times and I am very grateful. O.A. Fish (above) mentioned the 119 ministries. I had never heard of them and went to their site to investigate. I have not watched all of their teachings (there are many) but from what I have seen, I have been very impressed. They appear to be a part of the Hebrew Roots movement. I know there are some wacky HRM “so-called” ministries that I would never associate with. But the 119 ministries seems to be on target as best as I can tell. Can you give any insight about this ministry? Thanks so much, Dave A.

  22. The language used in relation to Israel and their growing population is fascinating.

    I wonder, it is called a “settlement” when any other nation in the world builds a new housing development, or is this reserved for Israel alone to emphasise their so-called yet much publicized oppression of Palestinians and the theft of their land?

    It’s a very colonial term in a society that is increasingly anti-colonialist, though strongly hypocritical in that we are not giving back the land we settled on and yet demanding this of Israel in very different circumstances to our own.

  23. @ Ron

    Bonjour Ron,

    In your 10 nations list, you include Saudi Arabia. Isn’t this nation supposed to be destroyed by Iran? (Is 21.2)

    Blessings

    FX

  24. Dave A – I said the 119 Ministries time line was very interesting, but I never intended to endorse all their teachings. I am more of a Pauline Grace Righteousness teacher myself. Back to the idea of the Turkish Antichrist I would like to point out the last dastardly deed committed by the Turkish Ottomen was the distruction of more than a million Armenian Christians. In doing a little research on “you tube” by typing in “Armenian Genocide” I discovered scenes every bit as horrowifying as those that came out of Germany during the Jewish Holocaust. The big difference is that there if great effort afoot to cover up the Armenian Holocaust. In answering some American Armenians, Mr Oboma promised during his first run for office that he would never forget the Armenian Genocied. How far has that gotten?

  25. O.A. Fish – Thanks for your clarification. I had never heard of 119 before. I can’t say I agree with everything they teach either. But I will say I like most of what I have seen. They are certainly challenging me to “test everything” and that is a good thing. Thanks for your contributions to this site! – Dave

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