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Retuning back to Psalm 83 identification of the nations. Your explanation of why Egypt will not be involved is only partial(Hagar-matriarch). Real reason in Daniel 11:42! Assur is identified wrongly. And so is Edom. Determining factor is preceding wars between two kings(North and South) of Daniel. You wish to know details, please E-male me. Respectfully,
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An Islamic anti-Christ. Ok, let’s agree for the moment that the anti-Christ comes from Islam, but does that mean he come from Turkey or the area of Turkey? What do we do with the holy roman empire, with the feet and toes of Nebuchadnezzar’s image of the last great world empire. The holy roman empire is both political and religious. This implies the anti-Christ would come from the old roman empire. Did the old roman empire include parts of ‘Turkey’ or is this a ‘european’ man who has converted to Islam which would make him muslim? or do we know? Obviously we will not know for certain until he steps into the third temple and stops the sacrifices.
@Robert Harrington – I think you would find Ellis Skoffield’s book, The False Prohet, enlightening ref. your question from Jan 19th 2015. It is available as a free download from this website: http://www.ellisskolfield.com/pdf/TFP-2Ed.pdf
I believe he answers your questions about an Islamic anti-Christ. I haven’t read a more impactful book in my life aside from the Bible.
I would on balance the scriptures speak of the antichrist being from Persia, or the king of the north, as Daniel 11 says. One could argue that the descendants of these people ventured out and became Persia on/or Russia, as in the prince of Rosh.
I have just written down all passages in the Old Testament which speak of the end times. They repeat a story that has never been seen before:
The king of the north shall invade a peaceful Israel to start the day of the Lord.
Israel is desolated.
42 months later Armageddon happens with the rapture.
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THE LOOP in EZEKIEL 7-11 compared with the loop in Ezekiel 13-17:
False prophets say PEACE.
Judgments upon JERUSALEM: SWORD and FAMINE.
(EZEKIEL 15 and 16)
The Lord will give up he inhabitants of JERUSALEM. It will be DESOLATE. JERUSALEM: Her lovers will burn her and leave her naked.
From the highest BRANCH, A twig is placed on a HIGH MOUNTAIN.
(Jesus comes back and stands on a high mountain. Zech 14:4)
AMAZINGLY, EZEKIEL 7-11 repeats this same end time story:
Paul said the day of the Lord starts when people say peace. It is a destruction.
Behold THE DAY…. IT has come.
They will seek PEACE, but not find it.
DESTRUCTION comes to Israel.
I will bring the worst of the GENTILES.
Those who survive will FLEE or ESCAPE to the mountains.
The invaders will DEFILE my secret place.
ABOMINATIONS in the temple.
25 people pray to the EAST towards Mecca.
Put a MARK on the FOREHEADS of the faithful
Jews. Slay all those who do not have that mark.
The glory of the Lord departs from the temple in
The glory stands on a MOUNTAIN to
the EAST of JERUSALEM.
Do you see how the elements of what Jesus and Paul predicted are here? Paul said the day is a destruction when people say peace. We see above those very words, right? Jesus predicted that when you see the worst gentile who ever lived, (the antichrist) Israel should flee to the mountains. What do you know? That same prediction is here also! What did Jesus say the antichrist would do? He will go into the temple and defile it by setting up the abomination that causes desolation.
What act will the antichrist do next? He will set up the abomination in the temple, right?
Ezekiel 8, the very next chapter, uses that very word, “abomination!” and “25 people pray towards the east.” (I expect that the antichrist will be Muslim, and so what else does Ezekiel say these defiling people will do? He says they will pray facing away from Jerusalem, which is towards Mecca!)
Ezekiel 9 goes on to state that after the abomination in the temple, and after the antichrist has ruled for 3 ½ years, as God’s wrath is about to hit, the Jews are marked on their foreheads to protect them from said wrath.
(Rev 7 has this same prediction: 144,000 Jews are marked on their FOREHEADS as God’s wrath is about to hit.)
Ezekiel 10 and 11:
Then what would we expect to happen as God’s wrath hits? We would expect the Lord to return and land on a mountain east of Jerusalem. And lo and behold, that’s EXACTLY what this progression says will happen here! The glory of God (Jesus, the King of Glory) will come back and land on a mountain east of Jerusalem. Zechariah 14:4 has this exact same prediction about the returning Lord.
Thus, in Ezekiel chapters 7-11, we see an exact match with what Jesus, Zechariah and Paul said would take place at the last 3-½ years of time:
1 As people say Peace-a destruction comes. (1 Thess 5:3)
2 The Gentile antichrist will invade Israel. (Matt 24:15)
3 Israel will Flee! (Matt 24)
4 The antichrist will enter the temple and set up the
abomination. There 25 men will pray to the east.
5 This will start a 42 month period (3 ½ years) of the
greatest distress the world has ever known. After that
distress, (not said here-but we know it will take place.)
6 Then the sun, moon and stars will be darkened as the
Lord comes back in the air with a trumpet. (Matt 24)
7 The Lord comes back and stands on a mountain.
“When you see the antichrist and his armies surrounding Israel, then FLEE! Paul said the day is destruction when people say PEACE! Do you see those elements here in Ezekiel 7-11? Yes!
What is the Antichrist predicted to do? Does Ezekiel match?
He will defile the secret place! CHECK!
He will set up the abomination.(Matt 24:15) CHECK!
He will cause Israel to Flee! (Matt 24:15) CHECK!
He will pray to the east (MECCA!) CHECK!
He will cause “destruction. “ (1 Thess 5) CHECK!
At the end of time, Jews are marked. (Rev 7:4) CHECK!
Then the Lord will come back. (Matt 24) CHECK!
Ezekiel 7-11 is therefore an amazing prediction about the end of time, and it also matches Ez 38, 39 and they BOTH describe how the Antichrist, the king of the north, and his SHIA Muslim
Joel what do you think about military Russian presence in Syria?
And what about Putin’s influence as a Assad’s counselor?
Netanyahu recently met a conference with the Russian leader and Obama also.
Could be Russian’s Putin to attack Israel, in despite of his great influence and supplier financial military to the nations, like Iran, Syria and Hezbollah?
Could be Putin a leader of coalition invasion of Israel related at book of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39?
Thank you very much, God bless you at all.
Hi Eduardo. I will do a show on this tonight and play it hopefully next week.
In my research, I stumbled upon an interesting fact that dovetails with your findings.
The sacking of Jerusalem in AD 70, while credited to the Romans, was actually done by a division of mercenary Turks that were hired by the Romans. Without looking up my notes (I’m at my day job now, and thus don’t have access), I believe the division was called Fulminatus (Thunder).
So, it only makes sense that God would draw in the Turks, so that He can exact His vengeance.
The Turks had not moved to this region yet. The soldiers were primarily Syrians and Arabs. I detail this in some detail in Mideast Beast.
In Gods War on Terror, you and Mr Shoebat make some amazing statements about the bible and “666”. If the translation as your books claims could be “bismallah”….wouldn’t that be one of the most revealing truths regarding the end times, the anti-Christ and the dangers of Islam? Not to mention one of the most prophetic accuracies. Other than your book with Walid, I’ve never heard or read more discussion. I’m just wondering if you could address that point?
With much appreciation for all you do. God bless and stay safe.
There are significant historical and other problems with the bismillah claim. I have never agreed with it. In that book, when Walid and I disagreed, we went with his views. I wrote most of the remainder of the chapter however.
Thx Joel for the reply concerning “666”. Is there a chance you could expand on the historical and other problems you mentioned having with the interpretation? I will understand if this is not the forum for your explanation.
Thx again for all you are doing.
Briefly, the most common kind of early Greek script used in the New Testament documents is Koine and Uncial. Walid’s theory only works with koine. But this was not used in the earliest documents. So Walid’s theory only works with Greek that was used four hundred years after the NT was first written. In the earliest documents is not like “666” (which might look similar to some Arabic) but rather “SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX.” No one would have confused that with Arabic. I hope that makes sense.
If Meshech and Tubal are provinces in Turkey then the chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal is the primary governor of Turkey. In Ezekiel chapter 39 the primary governor of Turkey leads the battle of Armageddon. If the Antichrist leads the battle of Armageddon then the primary governor of Turkey is the Antichrist. We should all be alarmed by the actions and intentions of Turkish President Erdogan.
However, Daniel 8 says that the prominent horn of the Javan is first broken off.
Question though, it mentions the ‘king of Greece’ in Daniel 8… but then it references the certain horn that is the 1st king…Could the ‘king of Greece’(Yavan/Ionia/Western Turkey) be referencing the end time religion, while the first horn represents the religion’s founder?
Could Daniel 8 simply be highlighting the religious ‘side’ of the Antichrist’s rule, as other chapters speak of the political side? The Persian’s Zoroastrianism was present in Daniel’s day and in power through about 650ish AD, where Islam crushed it…Islam was a major player in the area until the Ottomans were defeated and their power was dispersed. It seems to me, that Daniel received the similar vision of the Statue, but from a political point of view, since it was Babylon/Israel centered. Both concerned the time of the end.
v22, “The four horns that replaced the one that was broken off represent four kingdoms that will emerge from his nation but will not have the same power.”
If that’s the case, tracing the beast from the religious perspective, then the four major Islamic powerhouses of the Middle East would seem to fit into place being these 4 kingdoms; Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey? Especially tying in the goat as titled, ‘the king of Greece,’ (Yavan, aka Ionia, Pergamum, Western Turkey…) the religion is still strongly represented in these 4 power blocks, but all of them behave slightly differently in it and lack the cohesion/power that a solid Islamic state would have represented as in the past.
Also, it doesn’t all seem to be during the final week of years because it talks about a king rising then falling, and empires emerge from it, that would seem to indicate a larger amount of time to get major players on the scene. It also says v23 “in the latter part of their reign”, indicating that they’ve been around for a little while, and at the end, of their end(as it were), the antichrist arises.
Granted, there are still some holes in this, but I think it rings a little closer to the truth then the Greek Empire overtaking the Persians then dividing into the 4 other kingdoms.
Thoughts? or am I just taking crazy pills?
The prophecy is not pan-historical. Without elaborating on the many problems with historicism, I hold to a futurist perspective.
I know there are problems with taking a historical view…but it looks like the 8th empire of revelation, tying in with the statue of Daniel is rising in the middle east.
If Daniel 8 is a solely in the future, and all to be done in the future…wouldn’t that mean than, that whatever were seeing now, there will still be 4 kingdoms that split from this rising one? That doesn’t seem to line up with the other prophecies that seem to be clicking into place right now.
Either way, all the facts have to line up, and at some point all the prophecies have to come about. Is it possible that the ‘futurist’ perspective may in fact be our present?
Ankara is located roughly where magog is in several of these maps, which is interesting.
Do you assign any prophetic significance to the fact that Jesus called pergamum the seat of Satan? Or is this only a historical reference?
Personally, I see it as more of a historical reference.
thanks for a complete eyeopener! The elephant in the room, Islam and the Islamic Beast! Everybody concerned with the Pope and HRE reborn but for 1500 yrs nobody noticed this elephant chopping heads, conquering land ruling with sharia two horns of religion and politics, nice good lamb of good Muslims! Please keep on keeping on brother! Warm Regards!
I have read prophecy since I was a young boy. I think that the Psalm 83 war is an interesting theory, although more study/thought is needed. My question, however, is regarding Russia.
Is it your contention that Russia is Rosh, or rather that Russia is not mentioned in the Ezekiel 38-39 passage and thus, are not part of that war? Given that:
1) Russia is the nation who arms so much of the the Middle East, and indeed, the other nations mentioned in Ezekiel
2) Russia is firmly planted in Syria with permanent bases with no intention of leaving
3) Russia has treaties in place with Iran and Syria that could easily involve them in conflict
4) Israel’s oil find in the Golan and natural gas in the Med potentially threatens their economic blackmail of Europe. Especially since Russia currently uses the geographical position of Syria to block an alternate pipeline for oil and natural gas supplies to Europe from the Middle East, competing with the current pipeline from Russia.
5) Russia appears to be sending more arms than is necessary to Syria, and some intelligence points to the fact that the extras are being sent to arm Hezbollah
6) They are a failing country with a diminishing population, poor economy, but a big military that may want to take one more calculated opportunity to be relevant on the historical stage
Is it your contention that Russia not going to be involved in this conflict?
It seems that if a war broke out right now, whether it is due to ISIS/ISIL, Hezbollah/Hamas, Syria, bombing the Iranian reactor and nuclear program (where there are Russian technical experts) with an Iranian dictated response from Hamas/Hezbollah, or some or all of these at once, that whether they wanted to be involved or not, the “hook would be in the jaw” and drag Russia in. This is how I have always understood it.
I was just curious. Not upset at all. Much of prophetic interpretation will be reconsidered by all of us who read/taught/wrote about it as we watch it unfold from heaven, anyway. Thank you for even taking the time to read this blather of mine.
been a minute since anyone has posted here.. well we the U.S just sent 59 tomahawks into Syria today and I was looking into where they struck and ran across this map. Looks like this website was updated yesterday! any reactions about today’s events? and or information about the locations that were struck today and if they have biblical significance.? I would assume so.. but we are getting spotty news these days.. and generally the news does not discuss the Bible. thanks.
There does appear to be an obsession with Russia and the endtimes, especially from western commentators. I do not think Russia has any ambitions outside Russia – they have a massive piece of sparsely populated land, poor economy, so what would or could they wish to expand toward. The points raised by Joseph would be more realistic and true if words like Russia is replaced with USA, and Syria with Saudi Arabia. Then we have all the expansionist ambitions in one basket.. Not most, but all of present day military disruption in the middle east could have been prevented if Western military and political ambitions were contained. If I read it correctly US & UK military sales and aid to Saudi’s alone read something like R350 Billion – I dont think any country in the world could even remotely match that. Before you label me, I am a reborn Christian, I love the Lord , but am of the opinion that it all started in the middle east, and that’s where its all going to end.
Western obsession with Russia is more than obviousley a continuation of political agenda. Western Christians are constantley ignoring the fact that their societies not only accepted but are even inforcing a pagan, roman-like society of hedonism, all sorts of sexual deviations etc. And if they just tryed to listen to why their extreme liberal countrymen are attacking Russia, they would notice that propaganda has made it possible, for each and every American to accuse Russia of being a bad boy from his own perspective. Most Americans see Russia as a bad boy for not accepting the ‘do what thou wilt’ society built in the western world. Meaning they hate it for not embracing diabolical values. Russia could be the beast, however, accusations and misinterpretations are something people have been worned about. In most time periods Christians had “the end is tomorrow” population. That population always adapted to their own current situation. They all accused the way it suited their political goals, and the same thing can be seen here. In much the same way America could be accused for calling itself the land of God while pushing the entire world toward sin. When comparing the damage done by Hollywood and the one done by communists it’s easy to conclude that communism only ignited zeal, while Hollywood and the western music industry managed to replace Christianity with porn culture. So, one could easily see America as the whore of Babilon. So let’s not jump to conclusions. The most important thing is to live a Christian life. I doubt accusations are of any help in this. What’s comming is inevitable, but while having milions of people with milions of different interpretations, it’s more than obvious that at least 99.9% of those interpretations must be wrong. People believe what they like to believe. I mean just compare how an American is presented in a Russian movie, and how a Russian is presented in the American movie. I stopped watching Hollywood 2-3 years ago, and swiched to eastern European filmography. For one… I’ve never seen a Russian movie in which an American is presented as an evil guy which is constantley trying to destroy Russia. No… all Americans which I have seen in their movies are positive characters. (in fact I’ve never seen any foreigner presented as evil) In an American movie however… Russia is always presented as evil and dangerous, and so are mano other societies, usualy those who reject American rule over themselves. In the begginings of American propaganda, America did have true enemies with pretensions on it’s territory. Today… no one want’s to rule America or force America to adapt to their culture, but America still thinks that it’s normal to expect everyone else to adapt to her. Iran had a democracy in the 50’s… and America got involved to put a faithful shah instead of a democracy. Then a revolution started with all sorts of ethno-religous sects emerging. Then America took Sadam Husein and Iraq to fight against Iran and stood peacefuly while Sadam killed houndreds of millions with chemical weaponry. That the US went against Sadam. Also, bin Laden, al quaeda, talibans… they were all created, educated and placed in power by the US. None of it is a secret, none of it is speculation. The US admitts all these things and calles them mistakes. Well could it be that America is wrong again? It’s a shock to know that the US can make mistakes in the first place… because the way the US is acting is saying: “We are rulers of all, and allowed to do whatever we want, wherever we want and whenever we want, because whatevever we do is the right thing to do for ‘this world’s’ benefit. (for the US to be able to use someone elses oil while keeping it’s own reserves for future plans)” No one else is trying to be everywhere and form some sort of a Borg in which he plays the Borg queen…. using other societies as drones. So you see… outside of the western thaught, most people can’t realy see American or western European actions as positive… they are predatorial toward different societies, cultures etc. Preditorial in every possible meaning of that word. Sometimes it’s just economy, but sometimes it’s an open agression based on speeches of terrible regimes. The US regime however organised the Tuskagee sifilis research in which an entire population was infected with sifilis while they were told that they were getting a cure for a terrible sickness which wasn’t there. Then they experimented from 1930’s to 1970’s. That’s 40 years of fighting for ‘human rights’. Many ‘subjects’ died. The whole thing was admitted in the nineties, and no one had to pay fort it. There are many other examples of the westen world doing the wrong thing. How many natives were killed? They were concidered Satans demons by some. I know that many died because of new sicknesses, but millions died of a gunshot on their own land. One could have just tried to hand them over the Bible instead of committing a genocide. There are also many other examples in which the western world did the wrong thing… yet no one had to answer for any of it. How come that no regime change is needed in such instances, yet they are needed on someone elses soil, thousands of miles away? So you see, it’s easy to accuse people. But I’m not so sure that I would dare to share the Biblical roles as I see fit. Misinterpretation is a very real danger.
You might consider reading the Book of Jasher. Chapter 17 mentions Tubal children as the fairest if them all and after Babel they have settled in toscanna. The ppl of chittim take tubal’s daughters in marriage. Don’t know how they got to Turkey…. it’s possible. But always had in mind that tubal were the ppl that formed the alpines in eastern europe. May be wrong!
Then Ezekiel tell us that they will also come from north, the most northern parts….so count on much more north than turkey.
Then Daniel Visions relate to the fate of Babylon alone. Rome never got to Babylon… later in his visions we have sure that the 1horn is Greece and Alexander the Great, after his death his generals took over, after reducing the area in greater 4 kingdoms and 1 being the stronger( the seuducian? Sorry about the spell) then 1 king arrised, much more powrful, a man who understands riddles. He magnified himself above the Prince of hosts(Jesus) and trampled over the hosts(angels). He stole the continuous burning flame from the Prince of hosts in the sacred temple and truth has been destroyed forever. (The mosk Islam built on the land of the God’s destroyed temple)
But he/it will not be destroyed by no man’s hand (only by God at the end times).
It goes on…. this king will come from south, spread to the east and even reach to the glorious land! So no it is not Rome!
He drinks from the blood of the saints like in revelation the great harlot does drink the blood of saints and martyrs in Christ. Again cristian catholics were as persecuted as all the others. So no, it’s not Rome!
His kingdom is not left for his posterity (like a normal kingdom would be) but he is to be plucked out and spread into other kingdoms. This is definitely Islam!
This vision has definitely been fulfilled, God here through Daniel shows us the beginning of Islam, the last ‘kingdom of Persia which carried on from there, it is today and will be at the end!
Shias are a minority, predominant in Iran/Iraq, their caliphage was stolen by the sunnis, which managed to kill all except one of the appointed 12 descendants of Mohamed. Their prophecy is that the 12 descendant of Mohamed which disapeared will comeback at the ‘end times’, save them and restitute the shia caliph.
The little horn mentioned in end times, may stream from here, having satan, the beast, the false prophet and a bunch of magic will be no problem to unite and smite all the Islam countries.
We are warned that will also be false Jesus everywere….we know that world armies will go for war against eachother and that in the middle of confusion all of them will end up fighting Jesus! So no matter where it comes from, for all the world will be united against God…
Also the great harlot, has riches that the kings of the world commit fornication with her. The merchants and their ships will be devastated when upon her destruction! Dòes this sound like Rome? No!
The Beast and company hate the harlot and will leave her naked, whatever she is was made by the devil and for the devil, nothing but a tool to gather followers and fool ppl.
There are many religions but the only one that exists solely to deny Christ is islam!
Just a cursory look at the qu’ran:
Truly, god loves those who fight
Fight and slay the oagans wherever you find them, and seize them,beleager them, and lie in wait for them in any stratagem
Chop off their hands, chop of their fingertips
Whenbyou meet the unbelievers chop of their heads
Fight and slay those who don’t convert wherever you find them
Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends
Those who follow mohamed are ruthless to unbelievers
Those who reject islam are the vilest creatures and deserve no mercy
Fight them until islam reigns supreme (throughout the world)
Then Russia has been indeed, sneakily involved in many wars throughout the world for providing their weapons promoting wars and rebellions… also persucution of christians during world war I… so, don’t put much faith in their goverment!
USA… well there is theories that its rulers are comming from a line of freemasons and secret societies….
I pitty us, ppl of the world for being at the hands of such rulers. Not knowing if are to trust or not! Apparently the greatest rulers of the greatest nations are not to trust.
We all have to make choices individually and not abide by the rulers when time comes.
So, know your scriptures and may God be with you! 😊
What some people call “The Book of Jasher” today is a late fraud. No serious scholars consider it legitimate.
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